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Cake day: February 18th, 2026

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  • I’m gonna challenge two parts of your post;

    1. Not participating in something does not make someone anti that thing. I don’t play or watch sports, I’m not anti sports. I don’t participate in or watch operas, I’m not anti opera. Etc. Saying “anti-veganism” implies vegans face the same kind of persecution as minorities do.
    2. It is not the responsibility of the consumer to fix supply chain issues. You can believe there is no way to “ethically” raise livestock for meat and that’s fine, but what happens at “meat factories” and slaughterhouses is not the responsibility of the buyer any more than you are responsible for the child labour that went into the t-shirt you’re wearing.

    Since you were so overly aggressive in your post, I’ll permit myself a tiny snoot of “whataboutism”; do you care the same amount about the clothes you wear? The electronic devices you use? The energy you consume? The non-animal products you consume?

    Every. Single. Thing. you as a modern person buy has supply chain issues somewhere, and taking such an aggressive stance on one thing but not the others would make someone a massive hypocrite.

    What I’m ultimately saying is this; everyone has their own line in the sand for what makes someone a morally good person. Or rather; what supply chain issues are “acceptable”. For you, that line is clearly the consumption of animal products. For others, it’s different. It may be more extreme than you, making you the same horrible monster in their eyes as meat eaters are in your eyes. Are they wrong? What makes your particular line the One True Line?

    Believe me, I understand the fire you feel about this issue because I feel the same way about other issues. I understand that for you, it’s the most obvious and easiest thing in the world to be a vegan. This is not true for everyone, and it does not make them “fucked in the head”.


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    11 days ago

    Tbh I don’t mind the Mac look - in fact it’s one of the things that drew me to it as I use macOS for work - and the above complaint is my only real complaint.

    I keep posting it wherever it’s relevant in case someone comes out of the woodwork with a solution 😅