All FPS controller-based controls are inferior to keyboard+mouse. It just depends on how much hampering you can tolerate. People who played Doom on PC and adapted to Goldeneye were already making an alt control scheme work (although technically you could use 2 controllers to get a similar layout to Halo controls) because the game was good enough to warrant it at the time.
Of course the Halo twin stick controls were/are superior to the weird N64 controller, but none of them have “decent” controls once you’re used to m+kb. I even played a bit of Goldeneye 20 years after release and had fun with it–muscle memory kicked in and it was fine.
Did you play Doom or something? GoldenEye predates basically every 3d shooter. It’s controls suck today even for controller standards but it did a lot for the FPS genre… more than halo ce.
Quake and quakeworld predates it by a year and frankly were the shit. Quakeworld team Fortress was 96 even and that’s when things really got popping. Windows 95 was having some good shit shooters. Half life just built on what quake already made awesome. Goldeneye came out in 97 and it looks like a poor stepchild compared to networked over IP quakeworld with full 3d and incredible verticality.
Yeah Quake was definitely big technically and in the niche of computer users of the time.
GoldenEye was in “everyone’s” home though… It’s probably generational, but I can’t think of anyone that wouldn’t know of it. Vs Quake, the only 2-3 people I know that would know of it at the time would have because they or their parents were computer nerds then.
I don’t think this is controversial. Halo is the first game that managed an actually useful but still subtle aim assist that allowed playing a shooter with an analog controller to actually feel good.
007 Goldeneye N64 did have (surprisingly modern) dual stick control layouts … but it required 2 controllers. Of course it was ruined by how shitty the stock N64 controller was, never-mind having to hold one in each hand.
The only benefit to the N64 controller was that because it only had one stick, you could use 3 fingers of your hand on the stick rather than a thumb only. Way better control over the cursor than just a thumb.
Halo was the first console FPS with decent controls. I said it. They’re all borderline unplayable before that.
All FPS controller-based controls are inferior to keyboard+mouse. It just depends on how much hampering you can tolerate. People who played Doom on PC and adapted to Goldeneye were already making an alt control scheme work (although technically you could use 2 controllers to get a similar layout to Halo controls) because the game was good enough to warrant it at the time.
Of course the Halo twin stick controls were/are superior to the weird N64 controller, but none of them have “decent” controls once you’re used to m+kb. I even played a bit of Goldeneye 20 years after release and had fun with it–muscle memory kicked in and it was fine.
Yes. This is why I never really liked Goldeneye that much. Just never got the big deal.
Halo is the first one that I thought was decent. I didn’t say it had good controls, I said decent 😂
Did you play Doom or something? GoldenEye predates basically every 3d shooter. It’s controls suck today even for controller standards but it did a lot for the FPS genre… more than halo ce.
Quake and quakeworld predates it by a year and frankly were the shit. Quakeworld team Fortress was 96 even and that’s when things really got popping. Windows 95 was having some good shit shooters. Half life just built on what quake already made awesome. Goldeneye came out in 97 and it looks like a poor stepchild compared to networked over IP quakeworld with full 3d and incredible verticality.
Yeah Quake was definitely big technically and in the niche of computer users of the time.
GoldenEye was in “everyone’s” home though… It’s probably generational, but I can’t think of anyone that wouldn’t know of it. Vs Quake, the only 2-3 people I know that would know of it at the time would have because they or their parents were computer nerds then.
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I don’t think this is controversial. Halo is the first game that managed an actually useful but still subtle aim assist that allowed playing a shooter with an analog controller to actually feel good.
007 Goldeneye N64 did have (surprisingly modern) dual stick control layouts … but it required 2 controllers. Of course it was ruined by how shitty the stock N64 controller was, never-mind having to hold one in each hand.
Here’s a video of someone playing with the “2.2 Galore” control style
The only benefit to the N64 controller was that because it only had one stick, you could use 3 fingers of your hand on the stick rather than a thumb only. Way better control over the cursor than just a thumb.
Oh yeah??? I’d like to see my sister slap me to death until I cry on Halo!
Halo was not the first fps with good dual analog controls, just one of the first that was as popular as Halo was.
Using the c buttons to aim was super clunky