You seem to be creating this false dichotomy between “kremlin involvement” and “western oligarchs,” but you don’t seem to see how deeply the two are interconnected, and obscuring that connection only benefits both.
If you genuinely aren’t aware, pull some of the threads and you’ll see what I mean. Look into the connections between the kremlin and political movements like maga, reform UK, AfD, Fidesz, and other similar subversive right-wing extremist elements. As well as media personalities ranging from Fox News hosts to right-wing influgrifters.
Like I’m not trying to polish the turd that is homegrown western extremism, but denying the ties it has to kremlin influence would be as counterproductive as denying the influence that states like Israel have over establishment candidates through more official channels such as AIPAC.
In either case, writing that off as “blaming foreigners” is not a compelling argument. This isn’t like blaming hispanic and/or middle-eastern immigrants for the woes of the working class. This is about criticizing deliberate, orchestrated hybrid warfare techniques of an adversarial nation-state actor who doesn’t even try to deny that they’re doing it, and openly states that their goal is to destroy the west from within.
You can say “well the west deserves it for being evil,” but the fact is most western countries have had systems that were capable of improving themselves incrementally from within; what we end up post-dismantlement is practically an anarcho-capitalist financial olichary/kleptocracy similar to the current governing system russia has; in which all the worst elements dominate any redeeming factors that may have existed, and we end up with the resurgence of fascism that we’re seeing today.
It already worked in the US. Europe got their shit together and it seems their fascist movements are petering out. Not entirely gone, but not looming like the dark clouds on the horizon before a tempest like they seemed to be doing before.
The irony here is that the “blame foreigners” parties are almost entirely all the very same extremist elements who receive funding and support from kremlin propaganda agencies. So again, framing this as “blaming foreigners” falls way short.
You seem to be creating this false dichotomy between “kremlin involvement” and “western oligarchs,” but you don’t seem to see how deeply the two are interconnected, and obscuring that connection only benefits both.
If you genuinely aren’t aware, pull some of the threads and you’ll see what I mean. Look into the connections between the kremlin and political movements like maga, reform UK, AfD, Fidesz, and other similar subversive right-wing extremist elements. As well as media personalities ranging from Fox News hosts to right-wing influgrifters.
Like I’m not trying to polish the turd that is homegrown western extremism, but denying the ties it has to kremlin influence would be as counterproductive as denying the influence that states like Israel have over establishment candidates through more official channels such as AIPAC.
In either case, writing that off as “blaming foreigners” is not a compelling argument. This isn’t like blaming hispanic and/or middle-eastern immigrants for the woes of the working class. This is about criticizing deliberate, orchestrated hybrid warfare techniques of an adversarial nation-state actor who doesn’t even try to deny that they’re doing it, and openly states that their goal is to destroy the west from within.
You can say “well the west deserves it for being evil,” but the fact is most western countries
havehad systems that were capable of improving themselves incrementally from within; what we end up post-dismantlement is practically an anarcho-capitalist financial olichary/kleptocracy similar to the current governing system russia has; in which all the worst elements dominate any redeeming factors that may have existed, and we end up with the resurgence of fascism that we’re seeing today.It already worked in the US. Europe got their shit together and it seems their fascist movements are petering out. Not entirely gone, but not looming like the dark clouds on the horizon before a tempest like they seemed to be doing before.
The irony here is that the “blame foreigners” parties are almost entirely all the very same extremist elements who receive funding and support from kremlin propaganda agencies. So again, framing this as “blaming foreigners” falls way short.