• REDACTED@infosec.pub
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    4 hours ago

    Something I think about after seeing such titles is the fact that education system curriculums have gotten insane around the world. Kids study 3 times more than what I had to study back then. Nearly all are failing. We are really pushing the human limits here.

  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    Meh, it just says new exam was introduces and a lot of students failed. This just means the schools are not good at preparing students for this exam, not that they don’t prepare for practicing medicine. I would say it’s normal that universities will need time to adapt their courses to the requirements of the exams. Maybe students are not well prepared for the format or maybe the just need to put greater focus on different parts of the curriculum. I don’t think this means that graduates are somehow less prepared, just that the new exam is another barrier for them to begin practice which means it will slow down induction of new doctors into the workforce. Hopefully they will adapt fast and this will not have any long term repercussions.

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    9 hours ago

    Always take these stories with a grain of salt. Especially with a salacious headline such as “organization shocked”

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    4 hours ago

    Not just Brazil. The poutine-eating shit monkeys in Quebec are no geniuses either.

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    19 hours ago

    graduate

    lack basic knowledge

    Why are they graduating in the first place? Who is passing these students? Stop passing students who can’t show they learned anything, maybe? Novel idea, I know.

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      They… Are? Seems like a lot of people responding aren’t reading the article, so:

      • Brazil is huge, and has the largest public healthcare system in the world.
      • This is the first time they’ve conducted a national test against medical universities
      • They are not punishing students, but the universities, and restricting new enrollment at them

      And no, they are not all private institutions.

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      15 hours ago

      Corruuuuuption!

      Americans, pay attention, because this is where you’re headed in speed run fashion

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      16 hours ago

      It’s mostly private institutions passing people because they just care about the money and nothing else.

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        Source? The literal subtitle of the article says it’s private and public institutions.

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          They are restricting new enrollment for now while they make other plans. Removing accreditation would punish the students more than the system. Also, they aren’t all private.

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          That exam wasnt created for that and there is a very difficult exam to get a residency which is required for more ‘complex’ doctor jobs, so people didnt see the need for that until now. They are working on changes though that could involve shutting down courses that fail to meet the necessary standards

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    It’s no surprise that federal public universities have received the highest marks; they are universally recognized as the best. But the evaluation of medical programs has also revealed that tuition fees can be inversely proportional to the quality of the education being offered. Medicine schools that scored the lowest (1 or 2 on a scale of 1-5) charge each student between $1,100 and $2,600 a month, according to a detailed analysis by Veja magazine. This is veritable fortune in a country where the minimum wage is $313 a month.

    How can you charge so much compared to their minimum wage and still be so bad?

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      kinda like carribean ones, and likely wont be eligble for praticing medicine in the states, because they have much more stringent requirements, which tend to ignore “diploma-mill like medical schools”. if you’re a foreign trained"MD that is not from the UK, aus, EU , canada" you will have a extremely hard time to pratice in the states or in any of those countries.

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      I’ve found in higher education that many programs that act as diploma mills charge a lot because they can. They know the students are just looking for the degree and that the school is probably their only choice.

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      Students that are paying a fortune can expect and demand high grades for little work, they’re paying extra for the “deluxe” degree where all the hard stuff is done for them. It’s really common with for-profit universities.

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      I’ve studied at a public university in Brazil. Students from private schools were always mocked as being less intelligent and hardworking, starting with the selection process to get in: since everyone wants an education free of cost, the best students are selected for public schools.

      But still, I’m pretty sure it’s less of a matter of quality of education, and more of a lack of interest from students combined with a systematic problem of private schools. Hopefully they’re able to require passing this exam to rectify this situation. Currently, that already happens for law schools.

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      I mean… American minimum wage comes out to $1256 monthly (assuming full-time, and that’s pre-tax). Community college comes in pretty cheap at $450 a month on average, but four year universities come up to $4,800 on average (assuming full-time enrollment for both). The cheapest MD programs I can find are still close to twice the minimum wage, and that’s assuming you get in-state tuition, since out of state is usually 2-3x more.

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        Try $290 monthly minimum wage. This is Brazil not America in the article. Unless you’re saying It’s better ratio of wage to tuition than America, which is not hard

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          17 hours ago

          It’s about the same is what I was saying, yeah

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    The global economy is so broken that there’s barely financial incentive to become a doctor anymore. The system only sustained for so long because we outsourced medical training to places like South Africa.