• Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    There is a difference between scheduled update for security patches which the user agrees to on initial setup (and can modify at any time) alongside optional feature updates that are entirely… optional, and shoving feature and security updates automatically on the user regardless if active programs are running, without consent, and not granting an easy opt-out solution.

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      2 days ago

      Windows only does that if you ignore the update prompts multiple times, which means for multiple days since the default delay behavior is to ask a day later. It’s literally in the settings, including options to have it install updates outside suer-set active hours.

      But don’t let that get in the way of the realization that most people just ignore shit until the last second and then blame everything but themselves for it when they run out of options. And that the Internet jumps onto bandwagons faster than the speed of light just to feel like they’re included in something.

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        16 hours ago

        that’s completely unacceptable as restarting is not always an option. Microsoft can tell me all they want that I should restart if my current running process is gonna take a week to complete forcing the restart is completely unacceptable. Not everyone using this stuff is watching tiktok all day that can restart at a moments notice.

        • halcyoncmdr@piefed.social
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          16 hours ago

          Microsoft releases their patches on the same day every month. They do this specifically for planning that sort of thing. Including giving you options in the settings to pause updates for up to 5 weeks.

          And that doesn’t even get into the business-oriented options available through things like WSU to give more granular and customized update options for businesses.

          If you’re doing something that will take that long… Why aren’t you using the solutions available? Is it because you never bothered to look? You just wanted to complain instead? Because that’s what it looks like when there’s a literal setting dropdown, that’s not hidden at all, that would avoid your example entirely.

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            7 hours ago

            From my experience, I’ve not really ran into a long running task that might get interrupted by a Windows update.

            What I have ran into however is Windows update spontaneously deciding to downgrade my Intel Arc driver and install whenever it feels like! No prompt, no input from me, just installs. The only “prompt” I get is my monitors blanking out and either it blue screens or it downgrades and I get a “you need to restart to finish installing updates” notification.

            Not only was it downgrading to a driver that didn’t even support Intel Arc Control for my Intel Arc card, it caused Blender renders, which can take hours to render, to crash, it crashes games, or just blue screens the whole system because GPU drivers shouldn’t be updated when programs are trying to use said GPU. It was insanely frustrating and was one of my final straws to just deleting the Windows drive entirely.

            This was all with updates paused, but there was no way to disable driver updates, which shouldn’t have even been handled by Windows update for my GPU. Intel has their own updater and would actually update, not downgrade.

            Granted this was also a few years ago now with Windows 10 Home. But it’s something that was so infuriating to deal with for something that should’ve been a toggle or an optional update. At least tell me when you are going to break my driver so I can close programs!

      • oasis@piefed.social
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        1 day ago

        Yeah, I have never once been force updated by windows despite using it for many years. Why? Because I update my fucking computer like you should.