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    14 hours ago

    Yes, that is me defending Russia’s invasion. And as you can see, my argument there isn’t that Russia has a right to do it, the argument is that I think NATO is a tool of US hegemony and Russia is doing my work for me by fighting NATO. See how that’s different from what you wrote? Is any of what I’ve said bad faith, or was I exactly right when I said you were exaggerating (or in this case just completely misrepresenting) what leftists say?

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      13 hours ago

      Hahahaha , ohhhhh, you personally didn’t use the quote “god-given”, gee, thats me told XD

      Your clownery is literally why hexbear is defederated from a massive chunk of the fediverse while .ml isn’t. It’s like talking to a lefty Ben Shapiro who insists on following into the next room after we leave.

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        13 hours ago

        It’s not about what specific words you used. Read my previous comment again, I didn’t even quote the “god given” part.

        The issue is you fundamentally misunderstood why some leftists aren’t pro-Ukraine. It’s really not about what Russia has or doesn’t have to right to do. That’s misrepresenting our point. Just to spell this out clearly: communists don’t even believe that the state should exist, let alone that an individual nation-state has a “right” to do anything. That’s just not how communists think. Maybe some non-communist anti-imperialists on lemmy.ml do think that way, but AFAIK most are communists.

        This is like if a pro-life person said that pro-choice people deliberately want to murder children; you’re imposing a certain framework and a set of assumptions that makes your opponents look bad when that’s not what they’re saying. If you do this consistently, you can just shutter out debate entirely because you can ascribe incorrect or evil positions to your interlocutors until the cows come home.

        If you can find an example of a leftist saying that Russia has a literal right to invade Ukraine, then we can talk about that. But that specific reason is, IMO at least, very flawed. That doesn’t mean that there aren’t other reasons why someone could arrive at that conclusion.

        On the topic of sealioning: I won’t deny that I’m sealioning because it’s pretty obvious that I am. I’ll just invite you and everybody who reads this thread to question whether sealioning is actually a bad thing to do in all situations. If there’s a community of people making racist comments and a Black person joins that community and politely responds to every person who says something racist, they are sealioning. If a woman joins a misogynistic group of men and politely corrects them every time they say something misogynistic, she’s sealioning. And the worst part is, in either of those situations, the minority definitely would be right to not be civil if they desire, but somehow this whole concept of “sealioning” exists to make you out to be a bad guy whether or not you’re polite. Like, seriously, I’d be well within my rights to be impolite to you right now for lying about what leftists believe, but I’m being polite instead and that actually becomes a point against me because it becomes “sealioning.”

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            13 hours ago

            Okay, cool, ignore my last paragraph completely then. Don’t think about how the concept of “sealioning” just serves to reinforce whatever the consensus opinions are even if they might be reactionary. Abolitionists were sealioning. Civil rights activists were sealioning. Suffragettes were sealioning.

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                    11 hours ago

                    You know what, I think I might take it back. I’m not sure I was sealioning. I didn’t even go as far as to ask you for a source or anything. I simply replied to someone else’s comment and you joined the conversation by inventing a position I didn’t believe in. I haven’t even done the thing from the comic here, you’re actually the one that butted into the conversation.