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    Archive.today apparently hijacks visitor’s browsers to DDoS a blog that tried to uncover the identity of the archive’s admin. UBlock helps to stop that script.

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        If a tool is demonstrably indispensable to disable some browsers’ functionality, is it wise for browsers to have that functionality?

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          I’m guessing there’s just so much money (and power) in that kind of thing that it’s simply here to stay.

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          There may be genuine use cases to run a script, or whatever the attacker used. The problem is the browsers will auto-run stuff, the user isn’t aware and there’s no way to stop it. All ublock (and others) do is provide the missing security layer called “don’t auto run shit from the web”.

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              The NoScript extension will properly do this. The extension blocks domains from running scripts except those you’ve whitelisted. There’s a drop down that displays a list of domains from which the page wishes to run scripts. It makes much of the web a pain to use, though. I sometimes have to go through a loop of whitelisting a subset of domains which want to run followed by a page refresh until the page works. Javascript is often not optional. If you had to live like Richard Stallman professes you should, you’d probably have to join the Amish.

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              Yeah, you’re right. I guess a better way to put it would have been “don’t load 3rd party shit that I didn’t tell you to load”.

              Adblockers aren’t total security, nothing is, but it’s no doubt they are a massive improvement.

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          I like it being extensible instead, as some adblocks might be opinionated or unresponsive. It’s easier to swap adblocks then browsers.

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      UBlock helps to stop that script.

      Would that be by default, or do I need to enable something specific

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      I would be happy to contribute some browser action to ddos some fucking mercenary blog working for tech parasites.

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      makes sense, I didn’t get it when people started saying it but I don’t browse without ublock

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    An archive site that alters content in the archive is worse than worthless.

    The DDoS is just confirmation that the site is actively harmful.

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    Deeply saddening. Archive.today was a great resource, and stored a vast repository of human knowledge. As the internet turns to slop, we need sites that preserve the history of the web more than ever, and it’s very disappointing that the team at archive.today has failed us so profoundly in our hour of greatest need.

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        Because having one thing is never good. IA goes down then what? Also archive.today captures websites differently which can work in a pinch when IA fails to archive a site.

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        It does more to handle client-side rendering than archive.org, so there are pages that could be rendered by today that were not archivable by org. Also, because of differing usage patterns, it has archives of pages that org didn’t, and even for pages that org does have, at times org doesn’t.

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    Sounds like the kind of deprecation that can be possibly fixed with an automation. And I can see why is Archive Today considered harmful.

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      Automation won’t do it right. And that’s the goal.

      Besides, Wikipedia has always been human written for humans. Or at least, that too is the goal.

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      No.

      They think that relying on a hostile archive will ultimately harm Wikipedia.

      They know the shortcomings of the other options.

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        i’ve not used the others are they not as good?

        i’ll be trying them soon

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          It’s not that they aren’t as good, necessarily.

          More that the others do less “grey-hat” stuff, and therefore are less likely to cause harm or alter the content they host.