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What do you compromise these days going to something like graphene versus a stock pixel? I know the advantages obviously, just wanting clarity on trade offs. Features that become unusable, vulnerabilities, etc.
The loss of most banking apps and Google Wallet (tap and pay). For me, those are the killer features you lose. And the reason I gave up on custom ROM’s on a FairPhone 3+ after many years.
It’s not a location thing . . it’s a per-banking app thing. And specifically it’s a “does your banking app use Google Play integrity API” thing. On LineageOS running on my FairPhone 3 . . my banking apps all worked . . . until the day they didn’t. Here is a table reporting the current state of banking app comparability around the world . . but the next update from any specific bank could (and in my case did) break it -
PS. In the UK I did actually find an alternative to Google Wallet. . . Curve Pay. Not open source, but not dependent on Play Services. And enabled tap and pay on LineageOS.
What made you not use the web for your banking? Is the app 100% required? I use the web interface (forcing desktop version) for mine on graphene with no issues.
What do you compromise these days going to something like graphene versus a stock pixel? I know the advantages obviously, just wanting clarity on trade offs. Features that become unusable, vulnerabilities, etc.
The loss of most banking apps and Google Wallet (tap and pay). For me, those are the killer features you lose. And the reason I gave up on custom ROM’s on a FairPhone 3+ after many years.
All my banking apps work fine on Graphene. AFAIK there is only a very, very short list of apps which don’t work on Graphene.
There is a website that maintains the list: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/
I think “most banking apps” depends on your location. I never had any problems with them.
Yeah Google Wallet not working is annoying, but for me it’s a good tradeoff.
It’s not a location thing . . it’s a per-banking app thing. And specifically it’s a “does your banking app use Google Play integrity API” thing. On LineageOS running on my FairPhone 3 . . my banking apps all worked . . . until the day they didn’t. Here is a table reporting the current state of banking app comparability around the world . . but the next update from any specific bank could (and in my case did) break it -
https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/#international-banking-apps
PS. In the UK I did actually find an alternative to Google Wallet. . . Curve Pay. Not open source, but not dependent on Play Services. And enabled tap and pay on LineageOS.
https://www.curve.com/
Can’t you do a separate profile on graphene and enable Google Play services there? Or am I misremembering?
google play integrity works at a different level. it checks if you are running a google-approved, “sealed” operating system
Ohhhh, thanks for clarifying that for me.
What made you not use the web for your banking? Is the app 100% required? I use the web interface (forcing desktop version) for mine on graphene with no issues.