I use to believe that the business model of Microsoft was just selling an overpriced Operating System and Microsoft Office to governments and businesses. I used to believe that the business model of Google was gathering data and selling accurate ads.

I was recently surprised to discover they have research subsidiaries called Microsoft Research and Google Deepmind

Microsoft Research employs more than 1,000 computer scientists, physicists, engineers, and mathematicians, including Turing Award winners, Fields Medal winners, MacArthur Fellows, and Dijkstra Prize winners.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Research

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_DeepMind

The founder of Deep Mind received a Nobel Prize in Chemistry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demis_Hassabis

Do they do actual research here or is this junk science?

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    Corporations don’t do any research ever.

    Employees of corporations do research and development at the behest of millionaires and billionaires who exploit them.

    The corporation is simply the legal system that exists to allow this exploitation.

    It should also be said that a corporation that conducts its own research into the I’ll effects of its products and services should never be trusted unless that specific data is validated by a trustworthy and independent 3rd party. Governments don’t count.

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      The point of the research, like everything that gets financing under capitalism, is to generate private profits.

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      I mean by that logic, universities don’t do any research ever either.

      Employees of universities do research and development at the behest of governments who exploit them.

      The university is simply the legal system to allow this exploitation.

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        I mean, you aren’t far off.

        Many, if not most universities in the US are ran like private businesses in which those on top contribute little yet pocket most of the money.

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          It’s probably worse for the researchers at the publicly owned universities in my country. Read my other comment lol, it can get pretty bad

          Working for universities seems to suck in most places

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        do universities take most of the money made from employees and let them have tiniest fraction of it while dividing the rest between the owners and such?

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          University leadership might. But overall, researchers at universities make really shit money unless they’re getting a lot of grants or they could live lavish lifestyles if they’re consistent grant winning machines and know how to funnel the funds to themselves properly. Sometimes a single professor’s research group gets most of the grants and then money mysteriously gets spent at companies owned by people the professor knows.

          This is what I’ve heard anyway. Know someone who was either doing his PhD or had finished it and says he barely made over minimum wage much of the time as a junior researcher. No full time employment contract either, he’d just occasionally get given money when they got a grant lol

          Of course in the US universities have money so maybe it’s not as bad there. Here tuition is paid by the government so it’s very limited and science funding is shit too.

          Same researchers, if their fields are relevant to anything that can make money, can be much better compensated working in the private sector. But instead of working for the betterment of society, they work to enrich shareholders.