It’s pretty ironic to have problems with audio not recognizing headphones… on WINDOWS.
Multi-trillion (10^12) dollar company, btw.
(Both laptops are reasonably new.)
This is also my experience with the xbox wireless adapter.
Xow third party drivers tell you exactly what is happening or not happening.
Windows help page: whatever the issue, reinstall the drivers and hope that fixed it after a restart. Not a single way to diagnose.
I cannot get Linux mint Bluetooth to work anymore even with a good tp link dongle off my desktop. It skips or hiccups every minute.
I feel like it didn’t do this a few months ago…not one thing I’ve done has fixed, and no one can help me. 🤒
I’ve had this issue with my old Bluetooth buds because their batteries were dying. My new buds don’t have any issues and it’s on the same 2010 laptop running mint with the same Bluetooth adapter, maybe that’s what’s happening to you?
Its actually to connect to a Bluetooth amp thats like 2ft away. Its a shared amp, friends PC is wired to it and I use BT in it. It never has BT issues with any other device, only my desktop. And I’ve tried 3 dongles. And did all the pipewire pulse stuff everyone said to. Nothing. Imagine a CD skip every minute or so, is what it does.
Little problems like this are what makes me hesitate from switching full time.
Well if I’m fair, everything else has been an absolute joy and made me love computers again. So don’t let my issue stop you!!
I absolutely can do everything faster and better on my Linux desktop than I ever could with windows, and I love learning, so that’s a big plus.
There are far more things I care about other than my Bluetooth issue. Wires exist, its not a big deal to plug in. I do wish it worked, but I’m sure I’ll fix it someday.
Linux: “I am the non-janky OS now!”
Hot take: There is not now, nor has there ever been, a non-janky OS.
Some Linux distributions are absolutely less janky than Windows at the moment, though, absolutely.
I haven’t used a mac in a few years, but it was pretty jank-free the last time I tried it, but I’m certain the situation there has gotten worse.
Nah I’m on Sequoia on a maybe 3 or 4 year old MBP and it’s still smooth as silk for me
I’ve been having to lean on my (now deactivated due to declining upgrade) win10 install to get around a couple games anticheat, for games I can play solo. Wild.
The amount of shit that “just (doesn’t) works” is astounding after having had to do nothing more than reboot to fix something busted for years since I switched to mint.
What does this mean? I’ve never had this problem on windows…
On Windows 10, it is not possible to have different audio volumes for left and right. The control exists in the UI but does not work, both channels move in sync when you change them.
On mine I can also use different outputs at the same time, so I can for example have a video playing through speakers while game audio plays through my headphones. … I haven’t really taken advantage of it, but it is pretty neat.
First I tried Ubuntu. Then I tried Mint.
Two years later, still on Mint. It works, it doesn’t spy on me, I’m good.
Work requires Ubuntu. Still with Kubuntu. Works, doesn’t spy on me.
Brothers.
Debian, both at work and home.
Kids, you’re doing alright.
btw, Debian seems to be leaking maintainers and we need to do something about it, before a hostile takeover occurs.
Any source for this?
This was what I was going off of.
https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/debian-linux-is-slowly-bleeding:6
There’s also this now that I look into it, which you can base your own thoughts upon.
Thanks for the links!
My “win11” work laptop that used to have win10: “you guys can produce audio?”
The fun part about windows is you don’t know if it’s breaking because of the coke code from the 80’s or the vibe code from the ‘20s.
You forgot the Ballmer Peak code from the 00’s
Oh, yeah, cocaïne fuelled developers bouncing around. I’d forgotten about those.
Developers Developers Developers Developers
When you want to route your audio a certain way (let’s say audio recording/production or such)
Windows: oh sure, you just gotta download a shitty proprietary driver/program, get that to talk to your daw and from there on it’s…let’s hope it does what you wanna do.
Linux: You want routing options? Have some …(ALL the options)
When I tried PulseAudio over network in addition to VNC I just got a really choppy unusable audio.
I just gave up and restored to streaming audio with VLC.As someone that is using RTP to send audio from and to different Linux computers, this is unfortunately an option that is getting more difficult to use as time passes. A few years ago when pulseaudio was dominating, it was trivial to just tick a few boxes, enable RTP, see a lit of devices in pasystray, and choose it with a few clicks. Now since pipewire, this is no longer possible. Sure, RTP still works, but using the command line is now mandatory, as all the GUI options have disappeared.
I still find myself reinstalling pulseaudio on most of my computers running Linux because I need RTP audio and it’s disappointing that it’s getting harder and harder to get it to work on Linux.
Yeah they now expect you to use their native protocol for sharing audio on the network.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PipeWire#Sharing_audio_devices_with_computers_on_the_network
I’ve never used pasystray. But I regularly use qpwgraph now since I switched to pipe wire. It’s similar to the graph from qjackctl.
Any idea if Dante Virtual Soundcard supports Linux? I haven’t done any research on it, but I use a lot of audio-over-IP devices for work and all of them use the Dante protocol. It is definitely a “just open the program, tick a few boxes to route things from A to B, and everything works” solution.
It’s proprietary software and it seems doubtful the company will port it to Linux. However it seems there’s a workaround using AES67, or a reversed engineered implementation called teodly.
I’m not sure if this is what you’re talking about, but win11 can control both input and output per application.
I often route my Pandora audio through my stereo while my default/games go through my computer speakers (or sometimes my headphones)
Oh that’s a given, I’m talking about routing a signal through several pieces of hardware and/or software in a particular way.
For example: the drummer needs to hear a clicktrack and the bass, while the choir needs to hear the orchestra/themselves separate (and they want a little reverb). (Now take this and apply it to everyone on stage)
These kind of situations can get very complex and can get very high stakes.
For those matters in windows you rely on the software that comes with your hardware. Problem is those don’t always play nice together. Or they simply don’t offer the particular situation you need.
In Linux you can do anything you want. So much so that it sometimes adds unto the complexity.
Virutal Audio Cables, route audio output from OBS to Zoom/Meet as a microphone.
On Windows audio cuts out every so often.
Also an update broke a driver a bit ago and I had to edit the registry to fix it.
Linux is my comfort OS, everything just works.
Linux is my comfort OS, everything just works.
This exactly!
People who remember trying Linux 20 years ago look at me like I’m crazy. But Linux is so cozy, now!
Linux audio issues were common during the transition to PulseAudio, but that was almost 20 years ago now.
I was about to say… Maybe I’ve just been lucky, but I haven’t had the slightest issue with Linux audio. Ever.
mint occasionally loses all sound devices on my media pc, but that’s usually fixed with a reboot. and easy effects caused random sound lags, so i have to live without eq.
Mine too if it turns off the monitor and something happens (I suspect)when rediscovering the HDMI cable
And they continued until the transition to Pipewire.
pipewire is so cool! It’s so easy to set it up to sling to snapcast!
[sobbing] I don’t know what the fuck snapcast is, I just want sound to work!
It’s a pretty easy setup for turning all of your Linux devices into speakers for one studio stream.
Set up some raspberry pis, plug them into speakers around the house, hit a button on your phone, they’re all playing synchronized musicSounds expensive.
I had a shortcut on my taskbar to terminate and reinitialize Pulse. It got used multiple times a day.
Agreed, it was the next step from pulseaudio. To say it wasnt problematic is incorrect, as it had many problems and needed a lot of manual intervention.
Nowadays, pipewire appears alot more stable, even with the compatibility layers for when stuff uses pulseaudio.
I’ve been using Linux as my main operating system since 2010 and can’t recall having any audio issues. My desktop has 5 sound cards and they all work fine. I don’t use bluethooth for audio, so I guess that makes things easier.
I guess you’ve just been lucky.
Or you’ve just been unlucky.
It’s very common to have audio issues, in fact. Pipewire is seen as a golden age by many.
Pipewire is my goat
Time for curry
Bluetooth have been kinda crap but also HDMI audio devices have been buggy. Analog in/out (3.5mm) has always worked for me.
HDMI audio depends on a proprietary license. The Linux drivers for it are, predictably, less robust.
I’ve definitely had some on and off audio issues, nothing crazy usually solved by unplugging and replugging in the device.
Hard to believe it’s been that long already. Linux has come so far. I remember fighting with audio issues. The most frequent issue I remember having is not being able to have two different programs use the sound card at the same time. Haha. So no system sounds while listening to music.
Two programs not being able to use the sound card at the same time is what happens when you set a program to use an ALSA hw or plughw device instead of PulseAudio or PipeWire.
Back when I first started using Linux, PulseAudio was not yet a thing. Back then I was using Mandriva/Mandrake and Redhat (prior to switching to Enterprise).
PipeWire (written by Wim Taymans) did a lot of good for the Linux distro ecosystem when it comes to audio.
I remember the times before pipewire, not that fun.
Yet more fun than using microslops slop
I will never forgive him and Fedora for rolling it out when it was a half-baked piece of shit though.
It flipped a good while ago. Win 8 I think
Yeah, but does your half-assed linux install come with the incredibly useful NoPilot? Huh?
Checkmate, linux nerds!
does your half-assed linux install come with the incredibly useful NoPilot?
Nope. If for some incredibly bonkers reason I actually wanted to use it, I’d have to actually – gasp! – go to a website and talk to it through a website interface, rather than an interface directly integrated into every goddamn app on my own computer. That’s like … two, maybe even three extra clicks!
(Seriously, though. If for some reason I wanted to talk to a chatbot, I could do that on the chatbot’s website. Why do I need it to be integrated into fucking Notepad?)
Why do I need it to be integrated into fucking Notepad?
The rate at which every security practice is being torn down for the sake of clankers is giving me suicidal tendencies. Surely you will not regret giving the token-based randomness machine root access!
And don’t worry, the mega-corp that has constantly lied about things in the past promises that all the data from the integrated app that gets sent back to company HQ only gets used for training better chatbots (probably) (maybe) (possibly) (unless it’s, like really good blackmail material). And every single thing you’ve ever typed into Notepad surely isn’t just sitting there on a company server, waiting for a subpoena from an increasingly authoritarian government to gain access to…
(And, of course, that program you coded in Notepad? The fact that it was used to train Microsoft’s next chatbot, which then went on to magically write code strikingly similar to yours to be integrated into the next Microslop project without notifying or compensating you in any way … purely coincidental, of course. It’s not stealing – it’s training. Running it through a chatbot first magically removes all copyright protection from your code.)
That’s why.
Its ‘our’ pc now, not ‘your’ pc.
Allegedly, they changed that because idiots were going to their work computer and expecting “My PC” to open the contents of their home computer.
Whats nopilot 👽
It’s Microslop’s Artificial Idiocy
Oh the idiocy is very real
Ty
I imagine it’s rephrased “Copilot”.
Or outfazed copilot
Linux revoked my mic permissions in the middle of a call today, on Google Meet. Happened before on Zoom.
I have not root-caused it to see if there was flaky hardware or what.
Ok, this prompted me to root-cause the issue. A bad cable between laptop and USB dock seems most likely. Hardware issue, not Linux!
