• [object Object]@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    KDE started by emulating the looks and mechanics of Windows, but with even more busy lists and dialogs. While Gnome 2 was very obviously stealing from MacOS.

    I still can’t bring myself to try KDE again, after having been traumatized by it twenty years ago.

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      It cuts even deeper than that. KDE took Microsoft’s philosophy to the extreme, didn’t abandon projects that crashed and burned under Windows, and somehow at long last made many things work.

      Explorer was supposed to be an everything-browser. Didn’t work out. Microsoft gave up and made a file explorer and separate Internet Explorer. Meanwhile, KDE made Konqueror with KHTML that browsed everything – sftp, samba, websites, open any file within any Konqueror pane, split your view horizontally and vertically as many times as you god damn like. It was really fucking weird until you got used to it. KHTML went on to become WebKit then Blink; Internet Explorer went on to become a wrapper for Blink.

      Windows 98 wanted to put HTML on your desktop as applets or gadgets or whatever. Didn’t work. Sucked. Huge resource hog too. Got abandoned for the next ambitious Microsoft project that they never follow through on. Meanwhile that’s exactly how Plasma works, and it rules.

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        Interesting, but doesn’t quite inspire confidence in Plasma’s resource usage either. People here complain about Electron regularly, after all. Presumably KHTML must’ve grown in complexity together with other engines.

        Meanwhile I’ve got hit with a reminiscence of Windows 98/ME having telltale underlining on folder and file names in Explorer and opening of them with one click.

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      17 hours ago

      everything you said so far was screaming that you did not try plasma 6, but not even plasma 5, but finally this made it clear. you should try it sometime, it changed a lot!

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        17 hours ago

        People are saying in this very thread that KDE’s apps don’t look too good, and that KDE has ridiculous settings like scrolling speed per app (instead of following the system-wide settings properly). So apparently not that much has changed.

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          16 hours ago

          well, whatever. if you don’t want I won’t force it. truth be told there are a few neglected kde apps, but I have never seen that per-app scroll speed setting. wouldn’t be surprised if its an addon.