Hello, is anyone else making use of city channels such as
Name: Atlanta
Key: AQ==
to give a more local public group and mute LongFast, etc? The reason I ask is because we got a band opening this morning and I was trying to chat with some of the locals and broken conversation messages from the band opening were coming in to the chat on LongFast. It got me to thinking that it may not be very polite to have conversations on LongFast when you could reserve it for travelers and airplanes similar to CB Channel 19.
Meshcore has something similar, they call region scopes, where their repeaters can be set to repeat all messages and region specific messages. And if a repeater is not set to repeat region specific messages, then if it receives them, they will be dropped and not be forwarded on.
I haven’t had that problem in my area, we are remote and there’s so few nodes that most everyone keeps using long-fast default channel zero for mesh-wide communication.
Yeah, we live in a city of about 50,000 people, but normally our mesh is quite isolated. But once in a while you’ll get a band opening that will bring in a bunch more nodes and you’ll start to get that problem with broken conversations coming in on long fast. On a normal non-band opening day, we generally see somewhere between about 8 and 13 nodes when there is a band opening though that can skyrocket into the 50s and 60s really quickly.
Interesting. I guess I’m so isolated overall that even band openings do not allow any other nodes into the mesh.
I also have almost exactly 13 nodes online right now, as a matter of fact.
Sounds like you know what people’s birthday and Christmas presents will be then.
to give a more local public group and mute LongFast, etc?
Our local MT longfast channel was infested with traffic from abandoned nodes. One of them was relaying MQTT traffic from other continents. We ended up going to MC but I suspect making a local channel would have worked fine also.
Yeah, that could have worked. I actually did create a local channel for my area, and then I’ve muted long fast. And it’s working out pretty well.
In st. louis there’s #MeshSTL but it doesn’t have open encryption and still uses the LongFast slot. I don’t buy the politeness argument and all the meshes around here that are getting high air time are just moving to LongTurbo entirely.
Oh, the idea isn’t to encrypt the local channel. It’s to keep the local chatter on its own more separate channel away from LF, MF SF, ST. Those presets still have to be used depending on how many nodes in the area exist just due to the bandwidth constraints of the preset. If you have a thousand nodes, you can’t be on long fast. It’s just not possible.
So long as one of the presets is the primary channel all messages share the same frequency and airtime. Add secondary channels doesn’t do anything to lower utilization of the defaults so long as they remain the primary channel.
Correct. What it does do, though, is keeps the chat more local so that you aren’t sending out region-specific information on the long-fast channel for absolutely everybody to read.
Say Atlanta, Georgia and Nashville, Tennessee have a link that works between them and people in Nashville are talking about local restaurants on the Long Fast channel and people in Atlanta are talking about restaurants on the Long Fast channel. Well, the people in Nashville are seeing stuff about the Atlanta restaurants and people in Atlanta are seeing stuff about the Nashville restaurants.
Only the very small subset of people who are going to visit from Nashville to Atlanta or vice versa would care about that chatter. Therefore, having an Atlanta channel and a Nashville channel would make sense even if both of the presets are along fast.
I think you make a good point, there’s a lot of overlap right now with Chattanoogas LF>MF switch and Atlanta’s LF bridge. Unfortunately most of the time that overlap occurs as someone in ATL jumping on the LF bridge just to give a kind of seemingly mocking “you guys are still on LF?” Once the MF switch is completed the MF channel will be a huge mix of several cities and probably be too crowded for effective use of sharing localized info. I think it would be a great idea for cities to discuss/implement channels for use of locally specific conversation.
Oh, I was just using Atlanta as an example. I just chose it out of nowhere. It could have just as easily been San Francisco or Chicago.
I understand lol but your example wasn’t too far off from reality
That’s really hilarious, cause I had no idea at all.
