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    It’s an education model that uses artificial intelligence to teach core subjects while adults in the room serve as “guides,” not teachers.

    Alpha Schools, opening this fall in the former GEMS Academy in Lakeshore East, says its AI-driven model can help students learn core academics in just two hours a day, freeing up time for workshops, unique projects and learning various life skills.

    This is kind of interesting. Removing the teacher from the classroom is stupid, because teaching is about more than relaying information - but it looks like they’re trying to use AI for that last part, and have these “guides” do the hard part.

    This does not inspire confidence, though:

    Generative AI tools such as ChatGPT are known to make mistakes and sometimes fabricate information. But Alpha’s AI tools are different because they do not access the internet or rely on internet-backed search engines, which can produce inaccurate or misleading responses, Alpha Schools spokesperson Anna Davlantes said in an email.

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                It was a kerny joke about how in most fonts the r and n together read as an m, which is about kerning again.

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                  Oops, I remembered them backwards. I thought kerning was vertical spacing and leading was horizontal. You’d think I’d remember that from the typography class that I failed.

                  Turns out that I was too incorrect to appreciate your joke. I appreciate it now, but can’t bring myself to laugh at it since it’s now saturated in my embarrassment. But your pun got a good chuckle out of me!

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      Traditionally, these pilot programs operate as a marketing program rather than an educational program.

      You’re going to see a class of students enter the system with enormous supplemental aid and resources. The AI will be included but largely incidental. The students will be cherry-picked for media optics, rather than randomly selected from within the school district. Tons of paid professionals will write long-winded hagiographies about the affordability and effectiveness of the program. Some Ivy League University or Fortune 500 business will make a big show of admitting the most charismatic and saleable student graduates.

      Then the program will be rolled out to the rest of the country as quickly and sloppily as possible. AI will be jammed down people’s throats. You’ll get an earful about stupid idiot parents hysterically complaining about their dumb baby children, because they’re afraid of The Terminator movies. This will be book-ended with Steven Pinker and Bill Gates calmly explaining how AI turns dumbies into geniuses. A string of movies and TV shows will be released about kids getting AI education and becoming too smart (and time traveling or getting magic powers or some other silly bullshit).

      The YIMBY coalition of very informed TV nerds will be assembled to scream at anyone who doesn’t like AI. If you don’t like AI you’re Ableist or a Bigot or Not Serious About Education. Meanwhile, we’ll get an earful about how certain migrants and POCs are incapable of learning from AI because of their inferior genes. School districts will be told to either adopt AI or lose their funding / get taken over by the state / federal agencies. National media will be saturated with “AI is normal” media content until people stop resisting.

      And all of this will culminate in more school privatization, more public education defunding, and more militant policing of young people. Because that’s always been the real end goal.

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      That’s not what the data says. These kids are going to outpace traditional learning kids by miles.

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            • “AI should serve as a scaffold for cognitive construction rather than a substitute.”
            • “…the teacher’s role is shifting from knowledge transmission to instructional design and behavioral facilitation… Teachers must develop digital literacy and data fluency while acting as safeguards against over‑automation, ensuring that human judgment and educational values mediate AI adoption.”
            • “…while AI offers efficiency and feedback advantages, traditional teaching remains essential for tasks requiring cultural interpretation, discourse depth, and emotional connection. A blended model—AI for repetitive or procedural tasks and teachers for critical discourse—appears most effective.”

            This study explicitly does not advocate for replacing teachers with AI, and repeatedly cautions against doing so

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                Ironically… so did I 🙃 But I hand-verified everything it said, and adjusted the quotes.

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              And the school that is opening will still have human “guides” so I’m curious how it will work out. I agree it should be a mix of AI and human, and not fully AI.

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            These findings highlight both the promise and the limitations of AI in language education, underscoring the importance of teacher facilitation and thoughtful design of human–AI interaction to support deep and sustainable learning.

            The problem is there’s no teachers in this scenario, at least that’s my understanding

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              You’re right, they will have “guides” instead of teachers. This might be to far, but we won’t know until they try it. A mix of human and AI teachers would probably be best.

      • Really? Because the data I’ve seen says the exact opposite and that Gen Z is the first generation of people dumber than the generation before them. These kids are already fucked and AI is going to make it even worse.

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        AI hasn’t even been around long enough for any meaningful data to be collected surely. Also, post this “data” you’ve twice now claimed exists.

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          Why are you hounding them for the data? They would swear on their honor that Grok said it, and that’s somehow not enough for you. They even asked a follow-up “Are you sure?”, to which Grok reaffirmed its findings. Maybe you should be practicing law if you want to act like you care so much about “evidence”.

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            This is for college students (aka students educated enough to learn on their own already), reads like a promotion for AI, has a limited sample size and does not translate to school kids at all and from the study itself:

            Finally, the study’s limitations include its single-institution sample, short duration, and reliance on proxy behavioral indicators. Ethical concerns around informed consent, data privacy, and AI dependency also warrant closer attention. Future research should pursue longer-term and cross-institutional designs, employ multimodal behavioral measures, and develop governance frameworks that align technical gains with equity, autonomy, and critical capacity.

            This “”study”” seems to spend more time opining on AI learning frameworks than actually measuring scores on standardised testing and only dedicates a minimal amount of the paper to the results. It also states in paper that higher achieving college students saw less benefits (poorer performing student, AI can bump your grades enough to be noticeable for a unit/pass an exam).

            Did you read this study or google something in order to provide a study? This study does not support the claim that “these kids will perform traditional learning by miles”.

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              It’s also for learning English, which is something a large language model is probably the most suitable for. It’s not going to be much use teaching music or drama.

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              No, the end part was my own opinion. I do believe classrooms that embrace AI will outperform tradition learning classrooms by a mile.

              Already yes the study is limited, AI learning is very new. Want me to pull out of study from 20 years ago with decades of proven data?

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                You said the data says otherwise which you then used to support that opinion. The data doesn’t say otherwise.

                Want me to pull out of study from 20 years ago with decades of proven data?

                Almost like that was in my original comment that you then replied to with a study as if it were compelling, so spare me the sassy comment. Don’t claim the data says otherwise when it doesn’t if you don’t want to be called out on it.

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        The only research I’ve seen on using LLMs in a school setting found that the kids that were given access to an LLM performed a bit better on exercises that those without. At the same time their experienced learning was a lot better. When they finally got a test assignment, the kids that had been using LLMs during exercises flopped and performed significantly worse than those that hadn’t.

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        Coming soon to a movie theatre near you. A 2026 spectacular. Filmed in glorious Technicolor:

        Dr. Strangecode or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the AI

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      America’s got a bad habit with this. We already see what happened after the last 20 years of “no child kept behind”: now we have Trump.

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      I’ve helped picked up the pieces after similar “educations” and it’s bad. Teaching adults how to carry in addition or the concept of a variable. High school students that don’t have their times tables.

      Education is a fundamental human right. The Right has been working to strip it in the US since Brown v Board of Ed.

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        My partner is finally going to college after graduating high school twenty years ago. They were the only one in a college composition class that knew what a thesis statement was.

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          I was in the same boat myself about 15 years ago, and it was bad even then, I cant even imagine how it is now.

          You know how we used to have to memorize phone numbers but then smartphones came around and now nobody can recall more than a handful from memory? I’m no better, I can recall my wife’s, moms, dads, and work, but I couldn’t tell you any other relevant number to save my life today.

          Now take that paradigm and apply it to general thought. What happens when all our thinking gets reduced to queries and does not grow beyond that?

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    it’s not enough they want to gut the public school system with charter schools pushing all kinds of garbage, now they want to send the few precious education dollars to AI bros.

    fuck this entire reality

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    Fyi. Lots of research already showing kids don’t learn anything from AI and in fact it makes them dumber because they don’t learn to read or write. Just speak keywords.

    https://youtu.be/v0Y2oeXUIqQ “The kids are getting dumber” -UpperEchelon

    https://youtu.be/Fe_HPYh3q0Y “AI is creating idiots”- -UpperEchelon

    https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2025/11/is-ai-dulling-our-minds/

    https://medium.com/@akshaykokane09/is-ai-making-us-smarter-or-dumber-surprising-insights-from-recent-research-1caf49ff910d

    https://time.com/7276807/why-students-using-ai-avoid-learning/

    https://ia.acs.org.au/article/2024/is-ai-making-us-dumber-.html

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    That is, by definition, not a school.

    Schools teach information.

    This is a hallucination mill.

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    AI: Always Indian. The call centers will educate our children.

    Facetiousness aside, AI isn’t ready for many things. Right now I am trying to have a RPG Maker hentai game translated, but there are lots of issues. For example, the AI tends to drop these brackets, 「」, even when I give instructions to not drop them.

    If an AI can’t handle such details, I don’t think it should sculpt the minds of children.

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        Afraid I can’t participate. I only know my native language, and your community doesn’t allow for machine translation. Fully translating media with human aid alone is not possible for me, because I lack the money to pay people for their efforts.

        Anyhow, thank you for the offer.