Yeah no shit this news is like over 6 years old, they have been doing this for some time.
Some of it is, I’m sure. But the reason I posted it was because it had a lot of detailed information which I hadn’t seen before. It was literally my first post on Lemmy today, other than comments. I hope I didn’t make a faux pas.
Sorry, you were right to post it, I am just saying this is an ongoing thing we have those of us who followed the news have known about for quite some time. Just this last summer or so there was An article In This Very intercept detailing how the feds were streamlining the buying of data broker info and distributing it to agencies, previously agencies bought it individually and many bought the same tranches of information separately.
The whole thing is fucked. It’s a blatant violation of the Fourth Amendment we all know it but the goddamned federal courts are fucking traitors and deserve, something something.
Well, the good news for me personally is that since a year, I’ve been getting off of the American tech stack, hosting in Europe, with .eu domains, using aliases for emails on my own email server, locking down my stuff, and erasing what there is from iCloud, Google, etc… Completely. I wrote a long basic how-to a month ago to help others, and have been meaning to update it more. I’ve also been migrating my startup company’s setup to do the same. It’s all done now and I couldn’t be happier with the results. I’ve also been encouraging others online and friends and family to do the same. I even have a few of them using my Nextcloud server nearly full time now.
So I am trying to help. 😃
I can’t find it can you link it?
Sent you a DM.
What always freaks me out is people considering their government worse than the likes of Meta, Palantir, Google, Microsoft… At least you can vote (hopefully) for a different government. The problem is when the companies are able to buy governments, like USA is.
You can vote for the party that supports Meta/Palantir/Google/Microsoft or you can vote for the other party that supports Meta/Palantir/Google/Microsoft
What a reductive thing to say.
Maybe you should look at who has been expanding the surveillance state for the past 25 years, because it’s essentially a bipartisan issue in Congress and all administration. Edit to expand on my point, but the Democrats continued sycophancy to giant corporations and refusal to enact policies to benefit actual people is why America has accelerated towards fascism for the past 30 years.
Agreed. But the point they’re making (wittingly or unwittingly) isn’t “they’re both directly and indirectly responsible for the rise of the surveillance state.”
The fundamental point is: “Both parties are the same because of this one issue.” And that position is reductive to the point of being indistinguishable from the positions of centrists and conservatives, both of which often prefer easy-to-digest, broad-stroke politics over wrestling with the nuances.
Thanks for putting words in my mouth and talking down to me.
No, the point I’m making is that both parties serve the same masters. Look at who Meta/Palantir/Google/Microsoft donate to, do you think they’re wasting their money when they give millions and millions to both parties?
No, the point I’m making is that both parties serve the same masters.
To what end? What’s the logical conclusion people should draw from this?
…do you think they’re wasting their money when they give millions and millions to both parties?
I mean, yes, but to which party do they give more? You’re essentially saying “follow the money.” Here’s where the money went in 2024. You’ll note that the top eight biggest donors gave to Republicans.
They might serve the same masters, but the masters have favorites and not by accident.
To what end? What’s the logical conclusion people should draw from this?
Instead of only engaging in politics every few years when its time to vote, people should be politically active all year and engaged in struggle in the workplace and on the streets. Minneapolis shows the way - they didn’t vote to get rid of Kristi Noem, they forced her out by taking to the streets and by launching a general strike. Voting might be part of a larger strategy, but only part of one.
I mean, yes, but to which party do they give more?
Tech companies and people who work in tech tend to give more to Democrats. Palatir is an exception to this general rule, but Meta/Alphabet/Microsoft were mostly behind Harris in the 2024 election. Does this surprise you for some reason?
Both parties are the same because of this one issue.
No one said they were, but you’re disappointed that they aren’t.



