My bet is all these devices in new cars will be all from one company. It will be up to automakers to put the cameras in the dash but the guts will all be the exact same. They will plug in the computer and all other sensors available. If the car doesn’t have that sensor they can shut it off making these scalable to the “trim level” of the car.

I would bury them after the welding, then scout where the escape hatches and weld and bury them too… Then the air system…

that could be part of the system, but you know the chinese are reverse engineering them now and this app may not be able to detect them. I was thinking a more active system running in tandem.

Did Howard Stern already find the smallest peni?

Time to develop a system to detect these glasses asafp. Court houses, jails, strip clubs will be the first to buy them up. Then bars/clubs for liability reasons. Then everywhere else as who wants that shit around.

85% is a firearm, 80% is a fancy paperweight. No DVs from me just want to keep everyone straight on the law

/source: me I make 80% guns from time to time, next is a Glock 19

Its not like I can’t buy a mill press and caliper and make a lower. I already have the jig that makes it even simpler.

With the gig all I need is a hobby drill press.

Agreed, they start the lock down with “Its for the Children” so they can control the printer. Then the next is, that widget/doohickey is patented and you cant print it.

And lets be real you know this lock down will spit out all kinds of false positives basically making it an expensive brink…

Oh and you know all will have to have an internet connection to operate.

Another good point, I swear they get louder and louder… The last batch of new servers sounded like a 777 on takeoff.

If you saw it when we had to destroy on site it would make you cry. 60’ of servers in 2 rows and we would roll a forklift over them. The most we did was 3 sets of rows in a day.

We were allowed to do that w/ scrap cabling/metal and such. But like everything someone had to push it and start recycling new wire to keep the pizzas flowing. Bean counters noticed the spike in cable being purchased. Asked the bosses why so much going out w/ no new projects. Bosses figured out who it was and they were fired. The bean counters we had watched all the numbers like hawks. I got questioned on why the mowing company was billing 20% than last year w/ no contract increase. We are talking maybe a couple grand. I had to put the mowers on a schedule to keep the costs where they wanted regardless of the rain/growth.

Technically they can do the same but its not worth the hassle. I could have been more clear on that in my OP.

Case in point, we had a large HVAC fail. They wanted it hauled to the land fill. I thought what a waste, I’ll cut it up and take the condensers/copper to the scrappers and get a bunch of money and send it to HQ. I was already on the clock doing nothing and hoped to my us look good.

Cut it up in less than an hour, took to the scrapper on my time on my way home. Walked out with a fist full of cash and the receipt. Deposited the cash and wrote a check for the amount I got and sent it to finance.

I got is so much trouble for that. Finance didn’t want to deal w/ the paperwork. They went to their exec to complain to my exec and it was a shit show. Basically I was told we are a multi billion dollar corp and these small checks aren’t worth the labor to deal with.

As for “giving it away” you would be fired by COB if they found out. Especially over 3rd party gear. Liability was their biggest concern. I have posted a few examples in other reply’s.

Is it stupid, it is, I totally agree. But its incentivized to take the path of least resistance.

Thats an aspect I hadn’t considered, licensing. Unless you keep it off line your right its a boat anchor. What fun is that as you can’t update?

I agree on the risk aspect and that was the driving force. I had more examples I got from the exec’s like “What if one of these old servers burn a house down? Who you think they are going to sue”.

Also on the recycling side that there are checks in place that if say my company says “no” to refurb that they shred the servers up and recycle the bits they can.

But something has to give, over my career I have seen so much just be carted off to the landfill it would make you sick. And I worked small data centers. Nothing like what they are proposing now.

Interesting, maybe w/ my company they just don’t want to risk it w/ 3rd party (customers) equipment. Or more likely we don’t have the authority to tell the recycler that because its not our gear?

I know with our gear we ship it back to depot when its no longer in use as we have other centers that can use it. Or the repair group will part it out for future repairs.

I will say it chaps my ass seeing a roll away taken away w/ 5-10 million dollars of gear to be crushed.

Same w/ the cardboard, I asked for a bailer, too dangerous, denied. Asked for a cardboard only dumpster, again denied. We had a local charity picking it up as they made a few bucks off it. That got nixed for liability concerns… I gave up at that point.

Came here to say the same, I’m more than happy to help!

Everyone.

Its not worth it to them. They are making money hand over fist with these services and they right them off. So there is zero incentive to keep the gear.

Sometimes we buy the entire system for a dollar if we can use it on our network. Meaning we built these data centers for our systems. If there is space in them we allow colocation of other companies gear. Its better than empty racks and we charge a lot.

And I would be interested on how they are referbing the equipment and selling for a profit. When its devalued to zero it gets messy w/ the tax code. Not throwing shade, I would rather go this way then the landfill but this is what I was told by the executives. Also liability, someone illegally dumps them and the DNR runs the serial numbers they come back to you.

I got in a ton of trouble when I recycled (for no money, I raged on this point) a pile of battery bank cells and didnt require the scrap dealer to list all the SN on the invoice.

I have been working in data centers for decades. You have no idea the amount of waste there is. We fill up roll away dumpsters w/ boxes/packing materials when a new customer comes in.

They do an upgrade, ever server/switch/router etc ends up in the dumpster. Even if they are perfectly good and it isn’t worth shipping back or they have devalued to zero so they cannot be sold for tax purposes. Oh and another round of boxes/packing materials in the dumpster.

Some customers demand proof we destroy their servers (not drives). So we record one of us on a fork truck running over hundreds of servers. That part is kinda fun.

Areas uninsulated w/ AC blasting. Machines running that are idle as backup to the backup.

On paper we recycle them, but most of the time they end up in a landfill.

Real life Fallout’s “Glowing Fungus”