Unideal? Yes

Does that mean I stop trying altogether to minimize surveillance? No.

Mullvad has Israeli servers.

Thanks for the other reccs though!

It’s not about genocide.

It’s about surveillance, which is fully legal in Israel.

There are other regions that don’t conduct surveillance of all VPNs and comms. That’s better.

It’s not operating in a bad country that makes the vpn bad, but the fact that the country is known for its surveillance of VPNs there that makes it bad.

Mullvad doing something — even if it’s reknown — doesn’t automatically make it’s actions good.

Israel conducts surveillance of any VPN communications of any that exist in the region. This is fully legal there. This is a threat to privacy. You’d need to let me know how that isn’t the case, not that X or Y company also hosts a server in the region.

Re: mail, not looking for perfect, just better than Gmail, ideally FOSS.

I think mullvad has a server in Israel too

Why is it BS?

I did my research, I wanted community feedback for things I may have missed.

If you open the app Israel is literally listed as a server. It’s not hard to find.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t running a VPN to a region require you to have a server in that region?

The observable behavior is the fact that Israel allows it’s communication and intelligence agencies complete legal access to access and monitor any info out of VPNs and other digital social info/comms.

That’s been sourced; Israel is known for its surveillance. I’m not sure why that’s so controversial.

This isn’t fear-mongering, this isn’t assumption.

It’s not about supporting genocide that I’m concerned about over here per se (though it’s obviously not a good look), it’s the fact that the region is known for surveillance through any comms that enter it.

Unrelated, but yes, people against genocide literally boycott any businesses that operate in Israel, including McDonalds. BDS movement, for example.

They don’t need to be materially linked; they are digitally linked. Israel allows it’s communication and intelligence agencies complete legal access to any communications through VPNs that operate in it’s area.

I don’t want that surveillance.

Thank you. I’m baffled by how complacent people are to Israel’s involvement.

They don’t necessarily need to oppose the genocide but just not host any servers in the area (since that means they’ve access to it).

Then why boycott anything. Why use privacy-conscious alternatives. Everything is connected, afterall.

The British ought to actively strike against and shut this down ASAP or they will lose their country to complete fascism. Say goodbye to any aspect of democracy.

Issue is with Countersocial, not Lemmy. Lemmy works fine

thanks for pointing that out.

I’m not sure how this benefits the big corporations then. Surely they don’t have a deathwish? And aren’t stupid/incompetent enough to not see that? Else they’d not have gotten this big, right?

How do you do that?? I want to poison em

What about all the user data they sell to third parties? I’d be interested in knowing how that contributes to this

They’ll just declare bankruptcy and get away scott-free