I need to bring my casual friends and they will never install matrix. It is too alien too them with all this “instance/federation mumbo jumbo”.

I’m afraid Fluxer might snap and turn money chasers too. Buy until they do, I might try it.

There is also GameVox

CachyOS with KDE setting is less bold. But still bold for casuals.

Vivaldi is closed source “we pinky promise” proprietary software?

It’s wrong. There are more variants to check out:

• GameVox
• Fluxer

Jitsi sucked. Mumble is voice only?