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  • utopiah@lemmy.mltoPrivacy@lemmy.mlDoorbell anxiety
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    15 hours ago

    To clarify I listed here behaviors that I believe is common. I’m NOT listing behaviors that somebody privacy conscious is. That same person could around the neighborhood with a hoodie, glasses, hygiene mask just the same way.

    What I was trying to highlight wasn’t extreme behavior, one way or another, but rather typical ones.


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    21 hours ago

    See my earlier answers. I’m not justifying any of that infrastructure or behavior, only trying to highlight that this information, namely that OP is walking around the neighborhood, where and when, is already available to numerous of the actors including :

    • neighbors, just visually seeing him with their eyes
    • mobile operator via their 5G/4G towers
    • mobile OS via their positioning data
    • WiFi hotspots
    • ISP via WiFi hotspots
    • any app with geolocation tracking and any of their commercial partners purchasing that information
    • connected devices via BT scanning potentially sending back data to their manufacturer, assuming most are connected
    • governments with abilities to get information from ISP, mobile operators, mobile OS maintainers

    So… the question IMHO is : is there are NEW data with or without the camera network? I’d argue marginally more.


  • utopiah@lemmy.mltoPrivacy@lemmy.mlDoorbell anxiety
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    2 days ago

    You are right to be wary of that behavior as it is spreading.

    That being said I believe it’s good to be mindful of the “paranoid privacy nut” in the sense that… WHO are you concerned might have WHICH information about you?

    I don’t know you but… if I were to find your name I could find your address or at least roughly where you live. In fact depending on what you post one could potentially know your neighborhood without even knowing your name. Now I didn’t know you had a pet, now I do. That being said even without a pet… if you live somewhere you are expected to walk around your neighborhood. It might be to go buy milk, help neighbors, drop mail, etc. There is relatively no new information there. Your neighbors might know you are around, their doorbell cameras might have footage of you doing so… and what? How is the confirmation that a perfectly average behavior is indeed coherent? What also NOT having that footage bring? Maybe you are traveling and thus not with your pet but maybe you also are sick.

    So… I agree with you that all those cameras with footage are not healthy but also what do they genuinely add or remove? I would argue in principle a lot but in practice not so much. I would even argue to biggest impact is unwarranted stress and concerns, the chilling effect.

    Walk freely however you want, it’s your neighborhood, ignore the cameras.

    PS: as someone already pointed out, one does not need video cameras to track your movement and patterns, using wireless signal (5G/4G, WiFi, BT) on your phone is enough.