Why do people obsess over disks? I don’t get it. Sony destroys it with DRM anyway. What’s the point of owning an encrypted disk that refuses to install? People should be upset about digital restrictions management instead.
Because if the game isn’t for me I can sell it. I can share them with friends easily. I can install and play a game if my network has issues. I can buy games way cheaper than the insane PS store prices as there is actual competition in physical media sales.
Not if the game you bought on a disk is linked to your Playstation account and requires an online connection to play, which the majority of games do these days. The disk is really secondary to that.
Those are pretty arbitrary requirements only put in place to stifle second hand sales, pulling physical discs entirely makes sense when they’ve already done that. But both requiring the game to be linked to your account and an online connection to play is already bullshit and something people have been complaining about for years.
Because without physical games there is no secondhand market. If the only place you can buy PlayStation games is Sony’s digital only store, they have no incentive to lower prices and can revoke access whenever they want.
Sony will delete digital purchases from customer devices and not compensate the customers. Other companies have done it, but Sony seems to do it more often than anyone.
We have sellers like Amazon removing items from their store, which are then fully unavailable to the consumer. They also allow people who have shit internet to be able to play games. I knew someone in college who tried installing Terraria and got an ETA of ~12 hours.
Lots of people are also mad about DRM, it’s just also an older argument, so less new. Also with physical media DRM will inevitably be cracked, so it’s less of a forever barrier than not being able to own the game on disc.
It also affects people who don’t care about DRM. Collectors can’t get games for their shelf anymore. You can’t sell a game you’ve played to get back some of the cash. You can’t tell friends to look at your shelf to see what games you have, which isn’t that bad with one console, but if you have all 3 of the major ones you suddenly have to boot up 3 consoles instead of looking at one shelf.
Also, just human psychology: We hate change. DRM has been in games for longer than a lot of gamers have been alive, discs disappearing just happened.
I have a feeling you haven’t been without power or internet for a few weeks. I have. What do you do in that time? I played my 3ds, that I charged with a mini solar panel, it kept me sane while eating mre’s and canned goods in candle light in hot ass heat.
If you don’t have a physical copy (without online DRM) then you do not even own it. You purchased a lease with an unknown expiration for the full price of a game.
Physical media doesn’t really contain the whole game anymore since most games get a day 1 patch and further patches to make them actually release-quality, BUT the physical media still represents what people consider to be an irrevocable license. People expect purchasing games to be like purchasing a super Nintendo game back in the day was. No one can take it away from you. If there were strong consumer rights around the purchase of digital media people probably wouldn’t care as much, but in the meantime we have Sony actively demonstrating they will fuck you over by removing movies from people’s accounts.
Also, I can buy a physical game copy and share it with my friends and family when I’m done. Not being able to do that is a giant middle finger in this.
Why do people obsess over disks? I don’t get it. Sony destroys it with DRM anyway. What’s the point of owning an encrypted disk that refuses to install? People should be upset about digital restrictions management instead.
Because if the game isn’t for me I can sell it. I can share them with friends easily. I can install and play a game if my network has issues. I can buy games way cheaper than the insane PS store prices as there is actual competition in physical media sales.
Not if the game you bought on a disk is linked to your Playstation account and requires an online connection to play, which the majority of games do these days. The disk is really secondary to that.
Those are pretty arbitrary requirements only put in place to stifle second hand sales, pulling physical discs entirely makes sense when they’ve already done that. But both requiring the game to be linked to your account and an online connection to play is already bullshit and something people have been complaining about for years.
Exactly, but as long as those measures are in place, not getting a piece of useless plastic is irrelevant.
Because without physical games there is no secondhand market. If the only place you can buy PlayStation games is Sony’s digital only store, they have no incentive to lower prices and can revoke access whenever they want.
We have sellers like Amazon removing items from their store, which are then fully unavailable to the consumer. They also allow people who have shit internet to be able to play games. I knew someone in college who tried installing Terraria and got an ETA of ~12 hours.
Lots of people are also mad about DRM, it’s just also an older argument, so less new. Also with physical media DRM will inevitably be cracked, so it’s less of a forever barrier than not being able to own the game on disc.
It also affects people who don’t care about DRM. Collectors can’t get games for their shelf anymore. You can’t sell a game you’ve played to get back some of the cash. You can’t tell friends to look at your shelf to see what games you have, which isn’t that bad with one console, but if you have all 3 of the major ones you suddenly have to boot up 3 consoles instead of looking at one shelf.
Also, just human psychology: We hate change. DRM has been in games for longer than a lot of gamers have been alive, discs disappearing just happened.
I have a feeling you haven’t been without power or internet for a few weeks. I have. What do you do in that time? I played my 3ds, that I charged with a mini solar panel, it kept me sane while eating mre’s and canned goods in candle light in hot ass heat.
If you don’t have a physical copy (without online DRM) then you do not even own it. You purchased a lease with an unknown expiration for the full price of a game.
Physical media doesn’t really contain the whole game anymore since most games get a day 1 patch and further patches to make them actually release-quality, BUT the physical media still represents what people consider to be an irrevocable license. People expect purchasing games to be like purchasing a super Nintendo game back in the day was. No one can take it away from you. If there were strong consumer rights around the purchase of digital media people probably wouldn’t care as much, but in the meantime we have Sony actively demonstrating they will fuck you over by removing movies from people’s accounts.
Also, I can buy a physical game copy and share it with my friends and family when I’m done. Not being able to do that is a giant middle finger in this.
Because not everyone has good internet. It took me nearly a month to download Doom 2013.