This wasn’t the first time Waymo has tattled on alleged troublemakers. In July, Waymo contacted the San Mateo Police Department after two teens were found drinking alcohol and shooting toy guns in the back of a car, authorities said at the time.

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      It seems like a pretty weird outlier event in which the worst thing did not happen.

      I would want anyone on the street to report children going around with that gun. Call me crazy.

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        Yes, and, the precedent it sets is scary. What if a waymo camera spots what it thinks is a bag of weed in your pocket in Texas and calls the cops while locking you in? Isn’t that false imprisonment or kidnapping? No private citizen or company has the right to retain someone else against their will.

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          No private citizen or company has the right to retain someone else against their will.

          Don’t you have something called “citizen’s arrest” in the US? Like when a shop employee catches a thief, they’re allowed to detain them until the cops show up?

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            An AI camera in a self driving car is absolutely not a citizen, so therefore cannot do a citizens arrest, even if this fits into that definition.

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              Oh no, I don’t think this fits into the definition, it’s just that the statement I quoted seemed strange. And the company would probably argue it’s a citizen’s arrest if this ever went to court.

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          I agree with that for the most part.

          I’m not sure if being children has another layer to it in this case. To a point, school are not accused of false imprisonment if they “detained” a misbehaving child in detention. It is not obvious to me Waymo did something illegal or immortal.

          But overall I agree we should pay attention and the same facts with an 18 year old would probably be different (gun probably legal, ect).

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            That’s more because children are minors, and the parents who are ultimately responsible for the conduct of their children agree to the forms of punishment the school uses. A school can’t detain a child indefinitely if a parent shows up to take them home.

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            Schools aren’t because parents give them a right to care for the children involved. It doesn’t work that way in a waymo. You can be prevented from leaving a school because from a specific time to a specific time your parents have agreed you will be on the premesis in the care of the faculty.

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                Depends on if Waymo allowed teens (who can sign up for their own accounts and can have debit cards) to sign up without parental consent. If a parent or guardian ordered the Waymo for them? Probably an agreement for that.

                Otherwise though, it’s just as likely they entered into no such agreement.

                Of course, they also didn’t agree with allow their children to be trapped in the Waymo against their will. Show me that fine print in any ride share service’s TOS/EULA etc. I would love to see it.