There’s a pretty big difference between riding a ride that some people have heard makes skirts fly up and consenting to your upskirt getting posted to the Internet.
Yeah exactly. These people are so immoral, how do they not realise that filming it and posting it is massively invasive and completely wrong; now they’ve ruined it for everyone
Well until today I didn’t know that there was anyone filming Teufelsräder specifically to look up skirts, and would’ve thought nothing of watching a video. I’ve seen videos of them on YouTube before without thinking it was wrong. So I think that’s how - it didn’t strike me as invasive to film it, either, and given that it’s an event taking place in public I still don’t think “invasive” is the right description.
To me the difference is whether you’re declaring that you’re thinking about people sexually (or encouraging others to do the same) in an explicit way, which goes beyond filming and uploading it.
I think filming, photographing, purely strangers in public is on its way out of acceptability. Probably mainly due to feasibility of distribution… but it’s also just a bit creepy
I don’t think that’s really true, at least not at that level of generality. At events, it’s pretty much ubiquitous that someone from the event will be taking photographs to go on social media or whatever. There is no backlash against photojournalists taking pictures of crowds. Obviously you’d expect both of those professionals to behave according to professional standards, so neither category necessarily has anything to do with the original situation of taking photos of strangers for sexual gratification, but it’s something you need to square with your latest comment, I suppose.
There’s a pretty big difference between riding a ride that some people have heard makes skirts fly up and consenting to your upskirt getting posted to the Internet.
Yeah exactly. These people are so immoral, how do they not realise that filming it and posting it is massively invasive and completely wrong; now they’ve ruined it for everyone
They realise. They just don’t care.
Well until today I didn’t know that there was anyone filming Teufelsräder specifically to look up skirts, and would’ve thought nothing of watching a video. I’ve seen videos of them on YouTube before without thinking it was wrong. So I think that’s how - it didn’t strike me as invasive to film it, either, and given that it’s an event taking place in public I still don’t think “invasive” is the right description.
To me the difference is whether you’re declaring that you’re thinking about people sexually (or encouraging others to do the same) in an explicit way, which goes beyond filming and uploading it.
I think filming, photographing, purely strangers in public is on its way out of acceptability. Probably mainly due to feasibility of distribution… but it’s also just a bit creepy
I don’t think that’s really true, at least not at that level of generality. At events, it’s pretty much ubiquitous that someone from the event will be taking photographs to go on social media or whatever. There is no backlash against photojournalists taking pictures of crowds. Obviously you’d expect both of those professionals to behave according to professional standards, so neither category necessarily has anything to do with the original situation of taking photos of strangers for sexual gratification, but it’s something you need to square with your latest comment, I suppose.