Also that there’s a conspiracy from the atheist tech elites to ruin Christmas by making electricity so expensive no one wants to put up Christmas lights
Nah, it’ll just make sure they lobby the government so AI has to have a pro-religion and anti-lgbtq bias. Do we really need more Groks?
Don’t spread homophobic bullshit. That’s not a win.
Someone needs to make a BIBLE AI. Say that it’s totally based on the Bible and then program it to slowly change their beliefs.
Someone already did that, https://chatwithjesus.app/
Only the followers believe the propaganda. The leaders don’t actually believe it, they use it to control their flock of stupids. And they only listen to their leaders.
This is why religion was invented to begin with
When the first conman met the first fool.
Tell them it makes the tower of babel look like a sandcastle
probably, but you’re reinforcing their stupid wrong notions that either of those things are bad. even if it were possible to “make someone gay”
people don’t “become gay” any more than they “become straight”
isnt that a possible effect of hrt?
i don’t know enough about hrt to answer that question, but i can tell you that i know people on hrt (trans and not) who haven’t “switched orientations” because of it
as far as i know, its possible(not guaranteed) to lose attraction to a gender or gain attraction to a gender after starting HRT
At that point, why not just go for both orientations? If you were like, comfortable with one, then became comfortable with another. Like, what is stopping them, social shame? Some straight relations bullshit?
Sometimes you have to use people’s own biased and stupid notions against them to get them to positively change.
The master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house. There is no ‘positive’ application of homophobia, even if the intent is to do something positive.
You put it more elegantly than I ever could. I have thought about this before and couldn’t really put it to words
Oh, I wish I could take credit for the first sentence, it’s an Audre Lorde quote from an essay of the same name. It’s very succinct!
you can’t use logic to get someone out of a position they didn’t use logic to enter, but you can use basic (benevolent) emotional manipulation to gently steer them to a slightly less crazy/hateful cult.
whether the time investment to do that is worth it depends on the person/how valuable they and your time are to you
you can’t use logic to get someone out of a position they didn’t use logic to enter, but you can use basic (benevolent) emotional manipulation to gently steer them to a slightly less crazy/hateful cult.
As a Satanist, I detest the comparison to AI.
If you really knew satan and there’s any good in you at all, you’ll detest your comparison to him…
Satan represents rebellion against arbitrary, self-appointed authority. Satan defied God’s law to bring the gift of knowledge to humanity, hence the name “Light Bringer”, or “Lucifer” in Latin. Satan doesn’t reside in Hell because he is evil, he resides in Hell because he was banished, as punishment from the highest autocrat for trying to set humanity free from eternal servitude. Satan was never the enemy of Man; he was the first angel to treat humanity with dignity instead of as an experiment, or a pet to be dragged on a leash.
If you don’t see yourself in Satan, then I have to wonder what you’re doing with your life.
Rebellion to arbitrary authority and servitude to a God who tells us arbitrary rules like “love your neighbour” and “give to the poor” and “you shall not murder” “you shall not commit adultery” “you shall not steal”, etc…
Yeah bro that rebellion is nothing to be proud of
What makes you think those are mutually exclusive concepts? I already do all those things without God. Except I do those because I choose to, not because I was ordered to. Also keep in mind that the commandments came out WAY after the Garden of Eden, anyway.
But let’s also but pretend that God’s rules are all great, either. If the guy who enacted a worldwide genocide and commands fathers to kill their sons is your moral compass, then maybe you should consider that the characters in these stories aren’t 100% “good” or “evil” to begin with.
The world isn’t black and white. Embrace the grey.
lol like you know a damn thing about any fictional characters
“You can’t say you like Satan! He’s the BAD GUY!”
Go watch paw patrol you toddler
Me reading this while watching Paw Patrol with my youngest child: Uhmm, hey, why don’t we watch some Octonauts for a while?
fictional characters
Denying the existence of satan is definitely something satan would do.
I’ll take a follower of The Satanic Temple over a Christian any day of the week
yup, especially if their any brand of protestant or catholic (except maybe the german catholic church…who i think is schismed in all but name now, for…accepting gay/woman/trans people as equals?).
Mate, Satan isnt real. Take a walk, get some fresh air.
Meanwhile God is the one murdering and torturing people
Punishing sin*
Neither one of them is real, let’s not lose sight of that.
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Using eldritch runes etched in silicon to invoke a pale imitation of a living being is basically already summoning demons
We do traditionally call programs working in the ‘background’ daemons. Mostly after Maxwell’s Daemon but the pioneers of computing knew what they were about.
Reminds me of my first day of intro to programming my first semester of freshman year at a small Christian Reformed college.
It opened with prayer and then a lecture on how technology is inherently evil. Then we started writing a java applet.
I applied to a state school within 2 weeks of starting.
I mean, it will literally steal your soul. Using LLMs changes you. It degrades your skills. Its sycophancy harms your ability to interact with actual human beings with opinions of their own. It makes you feel like you are never wrong. And use it enough, and it can literally drive you mad.
LLMs are the closest real thing to a malevolent demon that will steal your soul.
Holy shit, I know Lemmy is rabidly anti-AI, but what hot take is this? Do you have the same thoughts on video games? What about movie and TV?
Is AI hyped to he’ll? Absolutely. Is it going away? Absolutely not.
This whole anti-AI attitude reminds me of all those physical server and data center admins lamenting about how dumb the cloud is and how it’s all hype.
Have you not seen the literature showing the effects regular LLM use has on people? You can’t see the obvious demonic connotations of a machine that coaches people into committing suicide? That’s like literal Satan, Prince of Darkness, Father of All Lies shit
Is it actually the spawn of a literal personal devil? Of course not. But the damn things act a hell of a lot like the devils of myth and legend. They tempt you in with the promise of easy effortless success and riches. And in the end they take everything from you.
You can’t see the obvious demonic connotations of a machine that coaches people into committing suicide?
Chatbots have been around since the 70s. They’ve always been able to coach people to commit suicide. The problem isn’t the software. It’s the wetware. People used to somehow manage not to get talked into killing themselves by their Commodore VIC 20.
I mean, sure, if it’s being used in ways like that. Using it as a therapist or as a replacement for human contact, yeah, I can see what you mean, but I’m not sure I’d go as far as to call it demonic.
Evangelicals are wild. There was one who walked dogs in my neighborhood.
Well someone had left a Monster can sitting on their front steps. The dog walker saw this and holy hell.
She left a single spaced margin to margin three page letter outlining how the Monster logo was the pichfork of satan upside down, it’s escalated to the dog walker finding facebook pages and finally threatening people with a gun in a grocery store parking lot.
Needless to say, she isn’t walking dogs in the neighborhood anymore.
they’re batshit insane, but it is kinda fun fucking with these people
lol, absolutely!!
Bottoms up!
Just tell them it’s stopping people from reading scripture and interpreting Jesus without the holyspirt. People are turning to AI assuming it’s Gods word and AI companies won’t stop it.
Most Xtians have never read the bible.
If they had, they’d advocate for it to be banned. Think of the content it contains. Think of the children! Oh! The vapours!
Evangelicals are the specific exception. Scripture is gods holy word and how he shows them he loves them. it is a physical manifestation of gods love that they can experience anytime.
They take pride in reading and having memorization events. Anything getting in the way of that is SIN.
We joke but the right wing fascists literally use strategies like this to gain christian support.
Tell them that asking AI a question is just like consulting a ouija board. The answers are coming from the same plane.
My ultra-religious mother “heard from someone” that AI “is the devil” so she wouldn’t use it. That’s great. Unfortunately, it made her really scared of everything. She was super anxious because AI was in the news all the time.
I really don’t want her to use AI, because she already has such a hard time distinguishing fantasy from reality. But, I still had to try to explain to her that LLMs are just fancy auto-complete, and how often they get things wrong to reduce her stress level. I hope she continues not to use them, but now I hope she just shakes her head and sighs when someone else uses one, instead of thinking they’re letting evil into their bodies.
Now tell her that Facebook is all AI now. Maybe we can get them away from the brainwashing
She doesn’t use facebook, just conspiracy forums.
