A common thought finally hit me today. The thought pop out in my end randomly, everything we do is really just an excuse to keep our minds busy for our inevitable end.

We create all this distraction from hobbies, jobs, family, technology, entertainment, science and religion to keep our minds occupied. We invented money to buy us more time to be occupied.

It is like the whole thing is just a fidget spinner.

Curious how you approach this?

  • BougieBirdie@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    4 hours ago

    I used to suffer from a lot of existential dread. Like, not sleeping because time spent sleeping was bringing me closer to the time I’d no longer exist.

    Whether you worry about it or you don’t, some day you will stop existing. Worrying about it frankly doesn’t help. In fact, it detracts from the dubious pleasure of existing. In my experience, not having fun existing makes me no longer want to exist.

    A lot of people advocate for distraction, although personally I think that’s just a temporary escapism. I think we need to confront our eventual non-existence, accept it as a fact of life, and then move on by trying to find meaning in what we have left. Way easier said than done.

    CBT is a school of therapy about restructuring our thoughts, and it has a lot to say about confronting the fear of the unknown. Cultivating spiritualism and religion is a traditional way of approaching the problem, although I’d encourage people to seek out and learn what other cultures are saying instead of blindly accepting what their parents’ church says.

    Personally, I had a religious experience while accidentally tripping balls on psychedelics. I’m not sure I’d specifically recommend that, it could just as easily backfire, but it helped me and you can find lots of testimonials with a similar story. Maybe it’s better to start with therapy and religion

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    5 hours ago

    Well, kind of. Just sitting there, waiting and thinking about how you’ll eventually die seems quite boring. Might as well kill some time with fun things in the meanwhile.

  • persona_non_gravitas@piefed.social
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    4 hours ago

    It mulled in the background for about 30 years to process, and then I came to the conscious conclusion that out of all the possible equally pointless reasons to hang around, for me satisfying my curiosities and improving the world for my fellow experience-capable-beings are the ones I want to do. Of course I still slip into mind-numbing distractions a lot, that’s just being human in the world we live in.

    That, and that practically, what are the options anyway? No point in ending it early, or wasting your finite life on something you don’t actually want.

    My choice of philosophy is absurdism, honestly because I think it sounds more fun than “optimistic nihilism” or “existentialism”. IMHO there’s a whole host of philosophies that basically suggest the same guide to living well, with different emphasis (for example):

    1. Figure out what you want (<- 20th century existentialism)
    2. Do it the best you can (<- stoicism, confucianism)
    3. Don’t let the other stuff distract you (<- stoicism, buddhism)
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    14 hours ago

    Surrender.

    Not resignation. Surrender.

    (Several years of reading philosophy, meditation, Zen Buddhism, resolving mental health issues, trauma work, therapy, psychedelic therapy, going through my personal hell, dropping self-hatered etc. but you can skip the hard stuff and just accept that all you ever amount to is the dash between your birthday and time of death. It’s very liberating once you stop believing the idea that you, or anything really, is “supposed” to be special. Or indeed that there even is a “you” - that’s just another way your mind is keeping busy. Vast majority of people take the long way around though.)

  • Kraiden@piefed.social
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    13 hours ago

    Optimistic Nihilism

    Sounds like you need more than hobbies, jobs, family, technology, entertainment, science and religion.

    What would make you feel more fulfilled?

    Do you need a cause? Try volunteering at a food bank, or animal shelter.

    Do you need a goal? Plan and train for a multi day hike.

    Do you just want to escape the treadmill of life under late stage capitalism? Know that you’re not alone. Do what you can to get yourself out, (or at least somewhat protected) and then try to find fulfilment

    The bad news is there is no great meaning or purpose to any of this. The good news is that there is no great meaning or purpose to any of this, so you get to decide your own purpose and define your own meaning.

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    14 hours ago

    I’ve just kind of grown comfortable with the idea that there is no real point. I’m fine just floating through my time here seeing neat shit and hearing cool stories, and doing what I can to make things a little better for the people around me. Sort of a cozy or optimistic nihilism, though I’m probably misusing that word.

    Joss Whedon is problematic in a lot of ways, but nevertheless this scene from Angel has always stuck with me: If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.

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    13 hours ago

    Realize and accept that time is going to move forward whether I like it or not, as well as not having that fruitful of a life. Then just hope I get a better life once this one is over.

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    11 hours ago

    everything we do is really just an excuse to keep our minds busy for our inevitable end.

    Everything ends eventually. The point is to find joy in the moments you have, it’s only really a distraction from boredom. You either do something or you don’t, but no matter what we’re all heading towards our end. Dwelling on it not only serves very little purpose, but it can actively take time away that you could have otherwise been enjoying.

  • Firebirdie713@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    11 hours ago

    I personally find meaning in doing what I can to make the world in general better. I view being a “steward of the earth”, as it were, as being enough of a meaning to my life. Not for religious reasons, but because any bit of help I can do makes a difference to people and causes I care about.

    In the era we are in now, with me being in the US, I am describing this feeling as being like a nurse in hospice. Several of my family have been either hospice nurses or patients, and it informs a lot of my view. Even if the little things I do don’t “cure” or “fix” anything, it makes life more comfortable for someone who needs it. I do more when I can, but this helps me not feel useless during times I can’t do more.

  • adhd_traco@piefed.social
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    12 hours ago

    Meaning and just walking a path.

    Lotsa shitty things in the world when I arrived. And anyone or anything living could be me, since I don’t think anyone even chose to be human, nor when and where they were born. So it’s in my interest to fix shit up and not make it worse – I could be the next kid born into this world.

    The comment of @bsit@sopuli.xyz is also important to me. as are some things @argumentativemonotheist@lemmy.world mentioned/touched on.

  • Excapism: Watching TV shows, movies, anime,

    Writing… my life story… sometimes fiction… sometimes poetry…

    Watching youtube videos about random stuff, sometimes gameplay, sometimes educational, sometimes irl stuff (the less depressing stuff fun stuff)

    Just to let you know, I have double the normal existential crisis since

    1. I wasn’t even supposed to be born. I was during the One Child Policy of China but I was the second child… its a rare chance that I’m even alive

    2. As an immigrant, I have constant identity crisis. Not American enough to be American, not Chinese enough to be Chinese. I want to embrace my language but I keep getting traumatized by it. I keep thinking about the alternate timeline where I had to live in China behind the stupid firewall bullshit.

    3. I also nearly got kidnapped since I ran away from home when I was 6 years old due to a fight with my brother so I got scared and ran. I keep reliving that memory and just think what a horrible life that’d be to be trafficked somewhere.

    I don’t think it really goes away, you just have to deal with it.

    Watching movies that makes me cry is very powerful, endorphins feels SOO GOOD. Its hard to explain. Endorphins is the best natural drug there ever is.

  • IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com
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    15 hours ago

    While I don’t live it, I think human time should be spent farming/hunting/building/expression through arts, only what’s needed.

    …maybe throw some psychedelics in there…

    A lot of us were taught escapism.