It’s something I struggle with. Some bad news comes out about some public persona doing something shitty and they get cancelled. But sometimes I really struggle with giving up the things they’ve made because I like them. There are also occasions where the person has been accused of something and it doesn’t seem true to me, or I think they’re genuinely sorry and have been punished enough, and the context isn’t being considered.
What do you think? Who do you feel conflicted about enjoying?
It’s a struggle sometimes, but I think it’s the only real control we have.
It’s a case by case basis for me. Some actor being in a movie I like isn’t a big deal to me, but when someone has like huge creative control over something it’s like a visceral repulsion to me. I don’t want to take a piece of media into my experience with the subtext that the author touches kids or something. It’s not even just that I know these people do bad things, it’s that personal views shape how people make stories etc, and I’m not fond of putting that into my psyche. If they do some fucked up shit in the book, I want to be able to know it’s because this character is evil, not because the author is saying this is a normal healthy thing to do.
RHCP sucks because I think it’s pretty good music, and I was really into them when I was a teen, but given everything I know about them now it makes it impossible to enjoy their stuff now.
Doug TenNapel.
Dude is a level 10 bastard. But Earthworm Jim was very influential to me as a kid.
The characters and the sense of humor; It just spoke to me in a weird and powerful way.
The games, the comics, even the short lived cartoon show was not too shabby.
Ga-roovy!
Anti-Flag.
Absolutely sucks who Justin Sane turned out to be, but the music the group made together are still absolute bangers.
it will be hard pressed for me to enjoy something if the artist/actor got cancelled.
asian ytubers i used to enjoy, i think thier content is funny, but after they became covid denying, magaty, women hating(whole drama that started all this), they were dropped like a rock by most of thier fans, only the aprasocial groupies, and incels are left, the last time i visited the sub.
R. Kelly’s music slaps.
Also he wrote & produced for damn near the whole industry, so the tree of artists you would have to dodge to not listen to his work is staggering.
There is a line, I don’t have to love and agree with them on everything to enjoy an actor, but I refuse to support predators. Things like David Harbor cheating on his wife or the things people slammed Paul Reubens for I could really care less about, and I don’t give a fuck about their politics so long as they aren’t doing shit like J.K. Rowling and actively trying to ruin lives, however people like Diddy, Gaiman (whom I had personally loved for years), or Jared Leto can fuck off and die.
It always gets me that Matthew Broderick killed two people in a car crash and got off with a $100 fine. I love Ferris Bueller’s day off, and I think he’s really talented, but like this happened just after that movie, and he just did not seem to be held to account for it.
Oh gosh I didn’t even know that.
Tarantino.
I just know the guy’s a dickhole.
how the fuck did that guy get canceled actually don’t tell me I don’t want to know
Quinten exists in this weird state of permanent precancel. He does wild shit like openly writing a pro slavery character in a film with a black actor in mind and casting women specifically to see/interact with their feet. Yet he somehow keeps going socially.
This is going to get buried, but I miss Bill Cosby, or rather my mental model of him before all that nastiness came out.
His early stand-up was what ignited my love of the format. “Himself” is a masterclass. Such a shame.
Tell him I said suck MY dick
Dave Chapelle.
He’s still a comedian, but he’s digging into philosophy a lot more recently. He’s doing it in a way that’s pretty uncomfortable. A lot of the shit he’s said in the past few years is pretty reprehensible. I think he’s ok with making people uncomfortable now.
He made me laugh a LOT about 20-25 years ago. I thank him for those laughs.
I still watch his new stuff when it comes out. In his new special he addressed his reasoning for performing in Saudi Arabia along with some other pretty gross shit he does and has done.
I think he’s kinda a dick now, but in some ways I also respect his willingness to discuss his unpopular perspectives. I don’t think he comes from a place of hatred; but sometimes it’s hard to tell.
