I’ve recently started trying to improve my typing speed, which has probably been held back by my somewhat unconventional typing style. Formal touch typing was never a part of my education, and while years of computer use eventually led to me being able to type without looking, I’m probably not as efficient as I could be.

Can you touch type - and with proper form? QWERTY, DVORAK or other layout?

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    2 days ago

    I’ve actually leaned that in school, on a fully mechanical typewriter. But i don’t use this skill, as touch type is completely useless for programming.

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    I taught myself to touch-type with proper form after I built myself a split keyboard with the Dvorak layout (I figured since I’d never learned to properly touch-type with QWERTY it’d be as good an opportunity as any to pick up a better optimised layout). I gotta say, it does feel pretty great being able to type something with my eyes closed, or more practically, qouting stuff from a textbook without having to look at what I’m doing on my laptop.

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    Yes, I can touch type. I had a computer class in my year of high school where they taught us all how to do it.

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    I was never good at typing until I got a job programming. Never took a course or anything so I’m definitely not using proper form, but if you use a keyboard enough your fingers learn where the keys are.

    A course might help, but like all muscle memory, the trick is to just practice it enough times that you don’t need to think about it anymore.

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    i touch type qwerty and dvorak. when i was working in a call center i started learning one-handed qwerty touchtyping, too.

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    I was never able to touch type up through middle of high school despite typing papers and taking formal typing courses. Once I got into online PC gaming and also programming I got good at touch typing very fast. Is typing a skill you use daily? Natural practice beats forced if you already have the fundamentals down. QWERTY for me.

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      Same. I tried really hard to learn it but gave up in frustration. 5ish years with plenty of computer use later I suddenly found myself typing without looking.

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      QWERTZ

      How to tell us you’re German without telling us you’re German 😄

      As a Belgian, we have AZERTY as standard, which is so much worse. I wish we could’ve followed the German instead of the French influence keyboard-wise.

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        Oh my god the AZERTY… I naively tried it out for like a week or two and quickly gave up on the idea. The numbers and symbols being the reverse of QWERTY was just way too much of a headache, especially for programming. Unfortunately workplace requires all work computers to have AZERTY so

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          especially for programming Indeed! I grew up with azerty and still got tired quickly of pressing shift for most of the most basic symbols. Before learning to code, I don’t really remember having issues with azerty.

          workplace requires all work computers to have AZERTY

          dang that’s tough. Usually they ask me what I’m used to, not sure if I could accept a job offer if it came with azerty 😆

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            Azerty isn’t even a good layout for French, that’s how bad is it it is. There’s a new and supposedly improved version of it, but nobody makes keyboards for it

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        I too live in Belgium and azerty is absolutely the worst, i hace it sometimes at uni. Luckily i grew up using qwertz, later switching to qwerty.

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          Argh sometimes even, that’s annoying! Luckily the changes are quite limited for non-symbol keys. Still I usually just add the qwerty keyboard layout if not present. This approach costs me the least time.

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            Qwerty and qwertz are pretty similar, recently even changed to qwerty full time only using qwertz (blind) for special german characters. Before uni we had mandatory school laptops in azerty, and indeed the best method than was to jusr change it in windows and blind type.

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          I was under the impression QWERTZ was a German thing, seems it covers a much bigger area than that! Apologies!

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    Been touch typing Dvorak for about 25 years, qwerty for about 10 years before that. My hands used to feel tired at the end of the day, when I broke my wrist the occupational nurse suggested Dvorak, so when it healed I taught myself to type Dvorak. Probably a few weeks to learn, six months to get speed. (The advantage of a cushy government job). I can type all day now without problems. If you’re going to spend any significant time at a keyboard, I personally think it’s worth investing the time to learn to type properly, whatever layout you choose to use.

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      To be fair, programming is basically the art of making the computer do as much as possible with as little typing as possible.

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    I can’t NOT touch type. I need to see what I’m typing to know if I’m typing without mistakes. When I look at the keyboard, I make so many mistakes.

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      Ironically, with touch typing I know when I make mistakes even if I’m looking elsewhere. It’s just obvious when a finger does a wrong thing.

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    I don’t use all the right fingers but can type 80+ wpm, so you can be plenty efficient with enough practice.

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    Yep.
    Went to an all-boys Catholic High School and there were no technical programs (shop, auto, woodworking) bc they couldn’t afford the programs, nor the space. Barely had a gym.
    Anyhoo, ‘options’ were typing, bookkeeping, and Latin.
    Took typing for 2 years, buddy and I would race-type song lyrics out of our heads (lyrics often weren’t included in the liner notes).

    Elton John - Razor Face - GO!