Too late. Spotify sucks
Is this just music, or will conspiracy theorists podcasts and other right wingers be in high res too?
Listen to Bro Jogan’s heavy breathing in lossless audio.
spotify essentially killed grooveshark no thanks i’m still sour (I worked there)
I loved Grooveshark! Why the service stopped? I always thought it was a license issue.
Ah, feels good to know I just set up my Navidrome server and have been obtaining my entire music library for personal streaming.
It’s funny how many times people on Lemmy have accused Spotify of not paying artists fairly but for some reason there’s a large amount of ‘I pirate music and pay artists nothing’ that goes on around here and no one says a thing
Who mentioned piracy?
I get the files from bandcamp and quobuz. Unlike movies, you can still legally buy music, and get actual files.
Fuck you Spotify
I was the biggest fan of Spotify as soon as they started up. I was one of the first people to get early access and was a huge supporter for years.
Buy your music, own your files, never subscribe for something you can buy instead. You’re not listening to 12 new albums a year, if you can subscribe, you can pay for the files that will be yours forever. The fact that Spotify has higher quality streaming doesn’t change anything.
You’re not listening to 12 new albums a year
Uhm…
Yeah, I’m adding about 500 songs to my spotify library every year. If I paid 1€ for every single one it would be more than 10x the cost of the 3€ per month for a Spotify Family slot
You add songs to your library? I have albums/EPs and some playlists, but that’s about it. Wouldn’t mind switching away from Spotify, though.
I probably would pay for albums, but not sure if I’d pay for singles. Pay to get only one song? I guess it’s a physical mentality. The latest single doesn’t come in vinyl format, after all. If only vinyl wasn’t as expensive and so fragile and requiring work to maintain
I do listen to a lot of music, though. And many artists as well. Which makes it difficult knowing for sure what I like. When I can listen to pretty much anything at any point in time anywhere, for no additional cost… got many things in my library, not sure if it all stands
I think Spotify is missing the point. People who care about Hi-Fi, care about the music, which means they care about the artists, which means they likely care about the treatment of those artists.
In my eyes the only real value Spotify adds is their discovery features.
Too little, too late.
Previously Spotify couldn’t develop hifi because they gave hundreds of millions ofl their customers money to that anti vax joe Rogan dick instead. Get bent and die Spotify.
Canceled my sub when that happened and won’t be back.
Fist bump
he’s more than anti vax. he’s an anti-science conspiracy monger, one step short of alex jones.
Prob should get on with sorting out the AI stealing people’s music and profiles
Pretty sure Spotify approves of it. They don’t care about artists they are there for profit.
why all this fuss about lossless audio? Spotify premium is literally indistinguishable from lossless audio for 99.9% of the population and songs (because not all songs will be lossless or are even mastered in a way that makes a difference). granted if…
- you have the right hardware
- you have the ear trained to hear compression
- you picked a song that has audible compression artifacts however small they may be
- you are in a quiet room
- you are actively looking for compression artifacts
you may hear a difference. if you think otherwise, then do a lossy vs lossless blind test and be impressed that you actually cannot hear the difference most of the time (especially without actively looking for the artifacts)
Lossy audio compression algorithms work based on psychoacoustic effects. The average human ear will not detect all the “parts” in a lossless signal - there are things you can drop from the signal because:
- Human ears are most sensitive around the frequency of human speech, but less at others
- If there is a loud signal, a much more silent one very close will be masked if it occurs within a couple of milliseconds around the loud one
- There are other more subtle aspects of the human ear you can use to detect signals we just won’t notice.
So in order to determine exactly which parts of an audio signal could be dropped because we don’t hear them anyway, they measured a couple of thousand people’s listening profiles.
And they used that “average human profile” to create their algorithm.
This, of course, has a consequence which most people, including you apparently, do not understand:
The better your personal “ear” matches the average psychoacoustic model used by lossy algorithms, the better the signal will sound to you.
In other words, older people, or people with certain deficiencies in their hearing capabilities, will need higher bitrates not to notice the difference. In the 90s, I used to be happy with 192 kbps CBR MP3. But now, being an old fuck, boy, can I hear the difference.
Ironically, I can detect the difference not because my ears are “trained” or “better”, I can detect it because my ears are worse than yours!
So the whole bottom line is this: While it may be true that you, personally, do not require lossless to enjoy music to the fullest, other people do. Claiming that lossless isn’t needed by 99.9% of the population is horseshit and only demonstrates that you have no clue about how lossy compression works in the first place.
The fuss is that every time you transcode to a new format you accumulatively lose quality.
So for example if you have an 320kbps mp3, but then that takes too much space so you transcode it to 192 mp3, but then you discover the opus codec is more efficient so you transcode it again, but then you want to make a fan video of the same song, so your video player transcoded it again into video friendly aac.
The quality on your final video is going contain the faults of all the files upstream.
Meanwhile if you edit the video from a lossless source, it will only get encoded once.
So it doesn’t matter for streaming, but it matters if you want to download and convert to other formats.
This is going to affect my monthly fee, isn’t it?
Incoming Spotify premium plus subscription tier. With lossless audio. And then shortly after some previously premium tier features to go plus. Then ads appear on the premium, I mean basic tier (priced at the old premium price).
Incoming Spotify premium plus subscription tier
That was what they were planning to do, a new premium tier that would have lots of extras but then Apple released lossless audio as part of the standard base tier so Spotify gave up on it
To me I don’t really get it, I’ve had flac audio files in the past and I haven’t really found much difference in audio quality above 192k
Just to confirm there is no new tier for this
From today (September 10), Spotify Lossless will be rolling out to Premium users across over 50 regions including the US, UK and Australia. Spotify says the rollout is starting now and will continue though October. You’ll receive a notification alerting you when Lossless is available, but that’s not all.
Surprisingly, Spotify Lossless is free for Premium subscribers – a huge sigh of relief given that previous rumors suggested that lossless audio would come in the form of a paid add-on called ‘Music Pro’.
