I’m the same. I like the workflow of Plasma, I just find it more practical, but Gnome actually feels like an OS made this century. All the KDE software just feels like it was made in the early 00s and since then it’s just been getting hotfixes to keep it going. I wish they’d just abandon a bunch of their projects and stop spreading themselves so thin.
GNOME apps to me all few like tech demos that look cool but aren’t very useful because there will always be a deal breaker of a missinf feature or behavior you can’t change
I don’t really understand why anyone uses ‘KDE software’ or ‘Gnome software’, aside from the control panel and some widgets: for all actual work, I use software that doesn’t belong to any particular environment. Namely, Double Commander for file management.
There is something about the slightly bad kerning of QT that gives KDE a vaguely Windows 95 feel. Especially when you start installing extensions that make no attempt to resemble each other; there is nothing I can do to make my CPU temperature meter and my system clock look like they belong on the same computer.
Gnome on the other hand feels like MacOS with meningitis. It’s designed to look nice, but not necessarily do anything.
KDE started by emulating the looks and mechanics of Windows, but with even more busy lists and dialogs. While Gnome 2 was very obviously stealing from MacOS.
I still can’t bring myself to try KDE again, after having been traumatized by it twenty years ago.
It cuts even deeper than that. KDE took Microsoft’s philosophy to the extreme, didn’t abandon projects that crashed and burned under Windows, and somehow at long last made many things work.
Explorer was supposed to be an everything-browser. Didn’t work out. Microsoft gave up and made a file explorer and separate Internet Explorer. Meanwhile, KDE made Konqueror with KHTML that browsed everything – sftp, samba, websites, open any file within any Konqueror pane, split your view horizontally and vertically as many times as you god damn like. It was really fucking weird until you got used to it. KHTML went on to become WebKit then Blink; Internet Explorer went on to become a wrapper for Blink.
Windows 98 wanted to put HTML on your desktop as applets or gadgets or whatever. Didn’t work. Sucked. Huge resource hog too. Got abandoned for the next ambitious Microsoft project that they never follow through on. Meanwhile that’s exactly how Plasma works, and it rules.
Interesting, but doesn’t quite inspire confidence in Plasma’s resource usage either. People here complain about Electron regularly, after all. Presumably KHTML must’ve grown in complexity together with other engines.
Meanwhile I’ve got hit with a reminiscence of Windows 98/ME having telltale underlining on folder and file names in Explorer and opening of them with one click.
everything you said so far was screaming that you did not try plasma 6, but not even plasma 5, but finally this made it clear. you should try it sometime, it changed a lot!
People are saying in this very thread that KDE’s apps don’t look too good, and that KDE has ridiculous settings like scrolling speed per app (instead of following the system-wide settings properly). So apparently not that much has changed.
well, whatever. if you don’t want I won’t force it. truth be told there are a few neglected kde apps, but I have never seen that per-app scroll speed setting. wouldn’t be surprised if its an addon.
Normally there are different groups of people working on different things. So those that are working on one thing probably aren’t interested in working on anything else.
I’m the same. I like the workflow of Plasma, I just find it more practical, but Gnome actually feels like an OS made this century. All the KDE software just feels like it was made in the early 00s and since then it’s just been getting hotfixes to keep it going. I wish they’d just abandon a bunch of their projects and stop spreading themselves so thin.
GNOME apps to me all few like tech demos that look cool but aren’t very useful because there will always be a deal breaker of a missinf feature or behavior you can’t change
I don’t really understand why anyone uses ‘KDE software’ or ‘Gnome software’, aside from the control panel and some widgets: for all actual work, I use software that doesn’t belong to any particular environment. Namely, Double Commander for file management.
There is something about the slightly bad kerning of QT that gives KDE a vaguely Windows 95 feel. Especially when you start installing extensions that make no attempt to resemble each other; there is nothing I can do to make my CPU temperature meter and my system clock look like they belong on the same computer.
Gnome on the other hand feels like MacOS with meningitis. It’s designed to look nice, but not necessarily do anything.
KDE started by emulating the looks and mechanics of Windows, but with even more busy lists and dialogs. While Gnome 2 was very obviously stealing from MacOS.
I still can’t bring myself to try KDE again, after having been traumatized by it twenty years ago.
It cuts even deeper than that. KDE took Microsoft’s philosophy to the extreme, didn’t abandon projects that crashed and burned under Windows, and somehow at long last made many things work.
Explorer was supposed to be an everything-browser. Didn’t work out. Microsoft gave up and made a file explorer and separate Internet Explorer. Meanwhile, KDE made Konqueror with KHTML that browsed everything – sftp, samba, websites, open any file within any Konqueror pane, split your view horizontally and vertically as many times as you god damn like. It was really fucking weird until you got used to it. KHTML went on to become WebKit then Blink; Internet Explorer went on to become a wrapper for Blink.
Windows 98 wanted to put HTML on your desktop as applets or gadgets or whatever. Didn’t work. Sucked. Huge resource hog too. Got abandoned for the next ambitious Microsoft project that they never follow through on. Meanwhile that’s exactly how Plasma works, and it rules.
Interesting, but doesn’t quite inspire confidence in Plasma’s resource usage either. People here complain about Electron regularly, after all. Presumably KHTML must’ve grown in complexity together with other engines.
Meanwhile I’ve got hit with a reminiscence of Windows 98/ME having telltale underlining on folder and file names in Explorer and opening of them with one click.
everything you said so far was screaming that you did not try plasma 6, but not even plasma 5, but finally this made it clear. you should try it sometime, it changed a lot!
People are saying in this very thread that KDE’s apps don’t look too good, and that KDE has ridiculous settings like scrolling speed per app (instead of following the system-wide settings properly). So apparently not that much has changed.
well, whatever. if you don’t want I won’t force it. truth be told there are a few neglected kde apps, but I have never seen that per-app scroll speed setting. wouldn’t be surprised if its an addon.
Normally there are different groups of people working on different things. So those that are working on one thing probably aren’t interested in working on anything else.