• atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    Does it change your opinion that microsoft and apple are using your comfortability with using their systems to prevent competition and lock you into a system that over time keeps violating your privacy more while gives you less freedom in how you want to use it?

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      1 day ago

      It is not comfortability keeping me on windows. It is the fact thag Linux does not work adequately without work that should have already been done, forcing you to do it, and the fanboys of Linux make the entire ecosystem seem toxic as fuck. Your question is based off of an incorrect assumption.

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        1 day ago

        Linux is not comparable in the sense that it is not a company that is delivering a service that you paid for. So the work “that should have already be done” is done by unpaid work. We can all contribute to making it better.

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          19 hours ago

          “My obscure hardware setup doesn’t work out of the box on Linux, an OS where the OEMs have made no effort to make drivers compatible with or support in any way.”

          “Linux is broken because I have to run a shell command to install a package.”

          (you don’t actually have to, but they think so because that’s what the tutorial on page one of Google recommended.)

          They need help with the basics, and Linux people, who are more comfortable with the system, recommend running some command because it is the quickest way to get what they want. The noobs then believe this is the only way to do the thing, and then believe Linux isn’t “user friendly” because nobody posted a walkthrough of how to do it graphically with up-to-date screenshots that works for all distros on all desktops.

          This isn’t a Linux problem. It’s an education and communication problem.

          Most Windows users refuse to do anything to install software besides mashing ‘next’ after running some random .exe they found on the internet. The same people will defend Windows by saying it’s easy to work around one of Microsoft’s 900 horrible decisions forced on you by opening regedit and creating like 5 DWORD registry keys in some meaningless path. They will not see the irony here.

          Running a terminal command is not required for half the shit they want to do, but they believe so, because they haven’t bothered to familiarize themselves with how things work on Linux. They never learn this because they throw their hands up the first time their Windows workflow breaks down.

          These people would have a million fewer complaints if beginner distros

          • Included the Dconf app by default.
          • Included a graphical util for editing JSON, YAML, INI, etc. files by default.
          • Included a systemd service manager app by default.
          • Published their packages as downloadable links on their website so that installation can work like running .exe files (security concerns aside)
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            3 hours ago

            Please explain then.

            You can do most things on Windows through command line, yet almost nobody is recommending those for fixes.

            If what you say is true, we would have the same issue on Windows as we have on Linux.

            My explanation is that the average Linux user is overestimating the capabilities of the average user. They think they can handle commands, which they obviously can’t. Which causes Linux to look user-unfriendly, both as an OS and as a Community.

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              3 hours ago

              Because then all Linux users would be recommending the same distro instead of their personally favourite one.

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              18 hours ago

              Because it doesn’t. Don’t misunderstand my refusal to use Linux as blindness to what garbage it is. I avoid precisely because I know what steaming pile of shit it actually is. Y’all can keep deluding yourselves all you want.

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        You should do what makes you happy, but you’ve made a few of assumptions in these comments. The Linux of today is a lot more stable and user friendly than the linux of a decade ago. I installed Linux Mint a few months ago, easier to install than windows. It installed all drivers with no issues, without added input from me, worked perfectly from day 1. It as faster and more stable. Was basically a 5 minute install. I’m not a linux fanboy, I basically moved because windows 11 is malware and i didn’t want to upgrade past win 10, it was requiring more maintenance than linux. Windows is no longer software as a service, it’s made all of your data the product to sell everything to companies and governments, just like social media. By all means stay off Linux if you don’t think you’ll like it.

        There is a word for intrusive, unwanted software that intervenes in your work to advertise or engage you in unwanted interaction. The same word describes software that constantly monitors and exfiltrates what’s going on between you and your data.

        Malware

        I don’t so much love Linux as hate Windows 11.

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          23 hours ago

          I installed Linux on my roommates PC a couple years ago. Ubuntu. It took me a fucking week to get everything working.

          I have not made a single assumption.

          Also I don’t so much love windows as hate Linux. It’s unusable for the average person yet people keep screaming how they should move.