I respect their bluntness
Some people aren’t good at taking hints, you have to whack them over the head to get their attention first.
A tale as old as time or at least a couple decades.
is it that they dont’ shower, or is it that they just sweat so much they smell no matter what?
Just poor bodily hygiene in general. You can shower all you want but if you don’t wash your clothes or don’t know how to do it properly, it won’t matter.
Same as aversion to deodorant for whatever reason. Even here on Lemmy there’s lots of people that are against it for some reason.
And FFS, people need to clean their asses.
Idk who needs to hear this, but some people have body oils that react to the ingredients within various deodorants that makes the smell worse rather than masking it (which might be why some people are adverse to it). Some people who have had poor hygiene in the past have difficult bacteria cultures that won’t go away just by soap and water.
Try changing deodorant to antiperspirant. Minimize any perfume or scented products. And if soap isn’t working, acne face wash works great (just don’t use it every time or it dries you out).
Yes Its a real pandemic. This particular bacteria strain has infected my local Comic Books Stores, every CGC Anything, and of course the Anime conventions - they are super-spreader events.
It’s truly an enigma.
And realize deodorant is to be used after taking a shower, not instead of it
Chlorahexadine to the rescue
Yes there are a few I found that make it way way worse. I find the gel stuff to be the worst culprit
I have a mild allergy to most deodorant so I need to pick my battles, because if I wear the stuff that actually works daily, I’ll end up with a pretty sensitive rash and unable to wear anything at all. So most days I’m either wearing nothing or the crystal stuff which last like 45 minutes. If I’m getting on a plane or in a crowd I throw on the good stuff. Also I’m not paying $20 for Native BS I’d rather just smell bad.
The crystal salt stuff is often an aluminum salt if I’m not mistaken, and its the same stuff in some commercial antiperspirants.
Have you tried Zero Sweat? I don’t know about your specific skin but I’ve gotten pretty inflamed armpits a number of times from various causes including deodorants (specifically the white powdery kind that actually somewhat stops you from sweating), but this stuff never bothers me and works better.
Seems like it has the same problem as Native in that it’s outrageously expensive.
I have sensitive pits, but the Degree Extreme 72 hour stuff has been a welcome relief. It’s also not prohibitively expensive (I think I pay USD $9 for the two-pack) and smells really nice.
Sensitive skin issues. I haven’t fully figured out which ones are good or not, but my armpits seem to tolerate only roll-on format deodorants. Aerosol ones will give a burning sensation and rash within 1-2 uses and stick seem to just give rash within 3-4 uses. That actually did got worse after accutane treatment, but helped to figure out that only roll-ons are suitable.
But during current heatwave, theres nothing i can do. I sweat a lot as soon as temperature starts to get above 24c.
When working out, I’m literally the sweatiest person in the gym and start to smell of ammonia within 45-60 minutes. Up until now no one hasn’t mentioned anything, but i am paranoid about it and whatever i should deal with it or not or even if i can.
Try 70 % IPA once a day.
Can you elaborate a little more on that? I doubt you’re recommending it for drinking?
Soaking my gym clothes in it? Of course i do wash those daily and after each workout.
Spray it in your arm pit. Of course not a liter, just enough to get it wetted, like 1 or 2 pumps. It is a desinfectant and as such kills the bacteria that generate the smell. It also evaporates within a minute or so and thus should be less likely to irritate skin.
I’ll give it a try. Thank you.
We survived a few thousand years or so without deodorant.
If you shower daily and wear clean clothes, you shouldn’t need it.
We survived a few thousand years without showering daily and clean clothes. We had different lifestyles and different expectations.
Most people would have washed daily by some method, we’ve had soap and water for a very long time.
So you’ve acclimated to your own stench, got it
Depends on climate. If its hot, you need deoderant.
If you’re gonna freeze off fits you don’t even have the moment one of your ten layers unzips, you may not.
Modern deoderant is modern. There’s a long history of scent coverings, especially in indoor public spaces like temples. Why the bucket of hydrogenated whale piss do you think incense started being a thing?
I definitely don’t live in a hot climate, I’ll be lucky if the temperature hits double digits today.
We also lacked indoor plumbing, sanitation, sewage management, and typically had livestock near people as there were no highways or 18-wheelers to deliver meat from a farm in another region.
Life was stanky for thousands of years.
We had more space back then LOL. And some middle east area they wore scented deoderants on their head that would waft down and mask body odor.
I can shower, put on fresh clothes and if the temperature is above 20C I’ll be stinky as heck just after lunch. I always need deoderant or antiperspirant if I need to interact with anybody (including myself)
Well, I shower daily and wear a fresh set of clean clothes every day. Guess what, my armpits still stink. Should I just subject everyone around me to that every time I raise my arms, or should I wear deodorant like a normal person?
Exfoliate that shit.
Maybe clean your pits properly?
Is scrubbing them with soap proper enough, or should I be using some kind of industrial solvent?
If your pits still smell when exiting the shower, you just gotta get back in and rewash. I had this issue back when I used scented products and strong antiperspirants, it was difficult to get rid off the old gunk because it was properly matted. Unscented and gentle products are easier to wash away and to notice what is sweat and what is old product.
Yeah. Survived. We can still survive. Doesn’t mean you don’t smell bad.
And there they are.
You stink.
Our lives are filled with things we don’t “need” that we are not going to do away with any time soon.
Just have a shower, dude.
I find modern deodorants to be a bit overkill on most days. They are slimy, they irritate my skin, cause acne and take forever to wash off later. Antiperspirants are even worse. I really only use those types of products if I’m outside in humid heat after not showering for a day or two, once the stank has had a chance to build to noticeable levels. And yes I’ve checked with other people who have no problem providing critical feedback.
For me, those products are a solution looking for a problem, but for others, they might be essential. Some have need for even stronger versions that might need a prescription. Everyone produces different levels of stank. It also depends on the social expectations where you live, your climate, activity level, and diet.
After weighing the various factors, your decision to use any product that goes in or on your body is a personal one. People don’t have to use products that don’t actually help. It’s also good to listen to feedback of those around you, but the products available at your average store might not be the universal solution you think they are.
Eta: I say, essentially, “everyone has different needs in this area” and the hygiene gestapo show up lmao
Bro you stank
There he is
Oh you’ve never played a tcg.
No, I played then when I was 13 and I stopped because I grew up.
So you have, its just coming up on two years since? Its fine I’m jot asking you to bet your life on your yugioh skills; just to remember the people who play these things.
Ah yes, pinnacle of maturity checks notes TubularTittyFrog
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It’s a rule by Konami. You need to have basic hygiene. Nothing unusual here.
no one mentioned some of them are doing this on purpose to force the opposite player to make mistakes during a match because of the distracting smell, or make them concede because they cant stand the smell.
I have a hard time believing that. Maybe one guy did that at a tournament once, but I can’t believe it’s being done at scale
Yeah this is not a legitimate strategy.
9000 IQ move: “If we all stink then no one stinks!”
Meanwhile, organizers pass out on the floor due to the odor.
So same story since the fucking 90s? Some ccg players are fucking stanky.
TCG games just attract people that are 150 pounds overweight and smell like cat piss.
Um it’s a ferret not a cat.
thier own sweat and mildew, cat piss will actually burn your eyes.
So does Rugby
At least the rugby boys play slap-ass in the changeroom showers after the game
Somehow I don’t imagine the two sports are comparable.
I’d love to see a crossover event though.
I don’t know what direction would be funnier, the friendly local game store tournament field getting thrown onto a rugby pitch, or the All-Blacks throwing down a Blue Eyes White Dragon (don’t @ me, this is the extent of my Yu Gi Oh knowledge) during a haka.
Why not both? Before each rugby play, each team has to nominate a player to battle a Yu Gi Oh game. The players that doing the Yu Gi Oh game have to take the field for the rugby play.
Honestly, that makes about as much sense to me as what I think the actual rules of rugby are.
…is that what goes on in the middle of a scrum?
…is that what goes on in the middle of a scrum?
I think the players have a group therapy session?
And them being overweight affects others’ enjoyment of the game how exactly? Showering and deodorant are basic courtesy but why exactly is the player’s body shape an issue?
Being overweight exacerbates many health issues, so you’re more likely and prone to experience things that can lead to bad odors. Sweating being just one of many. You would need to clean more often as a result. It’s also harder to clean (more surface area, harder to reach spots). So, indirectly, it matters.
Being overweight itself isn’t an issue, but it does tend to cause more sweating.
And there are lots of folds and nooks where the funk can hide.
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Ever heard of rag on a stick? Its a meme for a reason
Hey! I use the rag on a stick to clean myself.
As a bigger guy, I started to get that “fat person” smell even after showering. I realized that the smell was coming from not being able to get all the soap off using just a regular showerhead. I got a handheld shower and haven’t had that issue since then. So, that could be part of the problem.
What kind of soap are you using? Irish Spring 56-in-one?
Lol
Does the residual soap get a bad smell or something?
What’s with TCG players and hygiene? I remember my MtG days when you couldn’t attend a single tournament without at least two of your opponent smelling like spicy corpses.
What’s with TCG players and hygiene?
It’s mostly just men hitting puberty and developing glands and pores they didn’t have before.
You’re going to find all the same smells in the locker room and the band van and the construction site. Anywhere you’ve got adolescent men congregating. Especially if there’s bad ventilation and poor AC.
What about the middle aged stinkers? What’s their excuse?
Depression probably.
Drinking, smoking, and sleeping rough are the most common cases I’ve noticed.
You hit puberty anywhere between 11 and 14… I dont think thats the main crowd.
You continue through puberty until you’re around 17. And you don’t stop smelling bad once it’s over. 20 year olds who spent a few hours out in the sun will smell even worse.
(mostly facetious) irrelevant! The last time a TCG tournament player spent a few hours in the sun, we were building decks out of clay tablets!
Is this what activating a trap card is? Everything I’ve ever learned about TCGs has been done unwillingly through shitposts.
Why can’t they be… taught? To clean themselves?
They can. But they also have to be.
Part of the cycle is new kids coming in, smelling bad, getting bullied for smelling bad, and changing their habits as a result. And then more new kids come in, and the pattern repeats. But you do need a baseline.
I’ve been in gyms that smell absolutely foul. And the folks who have normalized the odor simply don’t notice. If nobody says anything or otherwise makes an issue of it, the folks running the place don’t change the policies or put in the legwork to clean the place up.
Definitely not the leading cause of TCG-smell. But that is a complicating factor for that age group
I have to disagree, from first hand experience I’m mostly talking about grown adults.
With the construction site, It could just be the corpses in the concrete that are starting to smell a bit.
Hey that’s not cool! Being smelly is a strategy for winning! It throws your opponent’s off! If I want to stink, I should be allowed to! /s (Joking)
There was a (fake) strategy to get people in yu-gi-oh to concede the game, using 2 cards, and covering your hand in your own actual shit.
https://duelingnexus.com/wiki/Yu-Jo_Friendship
Edit: I don’t think I have ever played Yu-Gi-Oh, I just remember hearing about the above strategy
Haha!! That’s pure evil genius! I like the way that guy thinks.
…well I’m off to stab my own eyes out and drown myself in a pool of bleach.
Part of the meta-game strategy
I stopped attending local MtG events many years ago because of this one cadre of assholes who not only had obnoxious personalities but also smelled like they carried old onions and dog shit in their back pockets.
…do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
probably stink on purpose so card players make mistakes and the smelly person wins.
During the very early years of a local fandom convention, there was a similar problem.
Then, one year, gift bags with toiletries were handed out.
The hint was taken, and the convention has smelled better ever since.
“You are expected to be clean when you enter a tournament,” the official Yu-Gi-Oh Tournament Guide says.
At the time, this policy was welcomed among players,…
wait, so, it’s not now? are they against showers now??
…and Chronos Games & Gifts is similarly receiving praise from local attendees for keeping its venue stench-free.
what a weird way to put a sentence.
“Yeah I used to be for people showering before tournaments… I still am, but I used to be too.”
It’s always the one you expect.
This is what happens when you add Mai Valentine to the supporting cast of the manga/anime.
Get your head out of the gutter, I meant because she used to scent mark her cards to give herself a strategic advantage.
Scent mark with perfume, Geez.
It’s a bummer that something like this even has to be enforced.
