And by immigrants I really mean immigrants: you don’t have the nationality and live in the country = you’re an immigrant.

I keep reading about the plans of parties to kick out all immigrants, stop letting in any, and some parties even advocate to revoke dual-nationalities and kick those people out too. I’ve never really understood what the point of it is and have trouble imagining what the effects of such actions would be within the country.

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    People with money think that the natural born working class will actually do all the jobs the immigrants did for the same low wages.

    Natural born working people think there are reasonably paying jobs they would actually want to do being taken up by immigrants that will suddenly become available to them.

    They are both laughably mistaken.

    BTW I am talking about voters here. Cynically manipulative politicians don’t need to believe anything, they say what is useful to them.

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      People with money think that the natural born working class will actually do all the jobs the immigrants did for the same low wages.

      Who do you think are paying the immigrants? Especially the ones not legally allowed to work?

      They absolutely know that this is cheap exploitable labor, and that someone not legally allowed to work are almost guaranteed not to report employers who break other laws.

      They want outrage against migrant laborers (regardless of visa status) because that makes migrant laborers want to keep their heads down and tolerate abuses.

      The wealthy absolutely know that domestic labor would be more expensive, it’s just hate against immigrants make migrant labor even more expensive.

      All ICE has to do if they want to get people working illegally, is hit up red state agriculture work, but they won’t because those employers are wealthy(ish) Republican voters.

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        Oh yeah. If we made it so the immigrants faced 0 direct consequences but hiring them illegally had ruinous fines AND jail time, wages for natural born citizens would increase dramatically. A huge amount of “illegal immigration” is just diet human trafficking. Even the legal ones are sketchy sometimes, I meet so many international nurses who get hired into my specialty with 0 preparation for how dangerous American psych patients can get + how bad the working and living conditions are gonna be for them and the patients, but they can’t get out of their contracts.