• cally [he/they]@pawb.socialEnglish
    9·
    22 hours ago

    I used to use Neovim until I got tired of it and switched to Helix. I tried Emacs for a bit but turns out that Helix does everything I need it to do without any extra configuration.

    And of course I use caps:swapescape because I am not reaching all the way to the Escape key all the time.

        • UltraBlack@lemmy.world
          1·
          15 hours ago

          I’m coming from kakoune. Language servers are something that’s shockingly hard to get running reliably. Helix has solved this for me

          • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org
            1·
            11 hours ago

            weird. I just use kakoune-lsp, and it works just fine out of the box, spare bit of copypasting from the readme on their github.

            I really like that i have to put in no effort for Helix to work, but unfortunately its just too rigid for me.

            And it also backs down on kakoune’s philosophy, returning back the necessity of selection mode. It really frustrates me in this aspect. Kakoune’s more heavy reliance on modifier keys seems way more handy and sensible to me. Helix’s way just creates unnecessary complications, and feels like a change for the sake of a change.

            • UltraBlack@lemmy.world
              1·
              3 hours ago

              Helix pretty much shares the kakoune keymap and interactions, so no idea what you mean. If you mean the line select mode using x - you can bind that in the config.

              Also, plugin support using scheme is in the works. The dev still only sees it as a draft but it’s pretty usable already

    • lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      5·
      14 hours ago

      This is also my goal! …since 2020.

      I love vim/nvim but I’ve gotten used to using VIM more as a text editor then an IDE. Writing a script? Taking notes? Maybe even a small program? VIM all the way. Working on a big project that needs an LSP? Either spend the next 20 hours fucking with your VIM config and 20 plugins to get basic functionality… Or just open VSCode and install one plugin

      Heres to hoping since NVIM 0.11 with their LSP overhaul I can finnally make the full switch

  • outerspace@lemmy.zip
    9·
    1 day ago

    The problem with Emacs is that it sucks but there is nothing better, and you are getting stuck with it forever. Welcome!

  • Lyubo@lemmy.mlEnglish
    5·
    1 day ago

    Good, good! You’re on the right way! But remember, there is a world outside your Emacs, don’t forget about it.

  • Alawami@lemmy.mlEnglish
    622·
    2 days ago

    May I introduce you to the simple life of just using whatever text editor and terminal that comes presintalled on your favoraite distro? It’s ridiculous how far this can get you, I’ve been enjoying gnome text ediotor with gnome terminal.

    • smiletolerantly@awful.systems
      101·
      1 day ago

      Yeah no thanks. Linting, formatting, LSP integration, Treesitter,… are just kind of essential for programming work. And the advantage of nvim/emacs/… is that you can bend them to your will and preferences.

      If you just want to edit some config files, sure, use literally anything. But I need something proper for work, and if I already set all of that up, might as well use it for the config files, too.

    • da_cow (she/her)@feddit.orgOP
      3·
      2 days ago

      I did this for the past 3 years. At some point I just got curious what all the hype is about, so I installed emacs and slowly started to use it. Now I am at a point, where Im getting comfortable around emacs and actually start to enjoy its features.

      Befor I usually used nano, since I mostly edited my text files from within my terminal.

    • sepi@piefed.socialEnglish
      4·
      2 days ago

      Fake news. Emacs is the only text editor non-heathens and heathens should be using.

            • jollyrogue@lemmy.ml
              1·
              7 hours ago

              I’ve thought about Doom, but I haven’t gotten around to trying it out. Finding the time to sit down and learn it hasn’t been a high priority.

              • [object Object]@lemmy.world
                1·
                7 hours ago

                It’s very easy to pick up. Out of the box, it’s just Evil, Ivy/Vertico, Org-mode, and several programming modes. The spacebar is likewise employed for many actions, but I don’t use most of them myself: just have about a dozen that I invoke regularly. The enabled modules (readymade configuration) and installed packages are specified in config files, and doom sync handles installing them.

                It has some emacslisp helper functions/macros to add mappings, add hooks on modes, etc. — these are more convenient than those of raw Emacs.

                I’m not sure why the author switched Doom to Vertico in the upcoming version 3, when Ivy was working fine. I’ve made some configuration tailored to Ivy, so enabled it back via the config file.

      • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
        41·
        2 days ago

        That’s how the meme goes though. Anytime someone suggests, says something positive about one of vim or emacs, the response should be that they should use the other. 😄

        It’s an almost 40-year-old flame war.

  • sem@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    5·
    1 day ago

    I keep thinking that as I use vim, I’ll feel the need to learn more commands, but I hardly do anything except:

    • q, wq, or q!, quit with or without saving
    • i, insert
    • set:paste, preserves spacing
    • Shift-insert, pastes if shift-ctrl-v doesn’t work
    • / , search for a string (iirc, don’t really need it much).

    What are your vim GOTOs?

    • [object Object]@lemmy.world
      2·
      8 hours ago

      I hope that you use the motion commands at least, because that’s the whole point of the separate modes. If not, you should look them up and add some of them to your workflow little by little.

      The most basic ones are wand b to go a word forward or back; 0 and $ to go to the start or end of the line, or g0 and g$ for the visual line. f to jump to a particular letter forward. { and } to go to the start/end of the paragraph.

      V is useful for selecting whole lines. ctrl-v for block selection (or ctrl-q, depending on your setup).

      % can jump or select to the matching parenthesis or brace. With matchit installed, it also jumps to matching keywords like end or HTML tags.

      gc comments out the selection (or uncomments it). Works with motions too, like gcc.

      For pasting, you should use p in the normal mode. Also P pastes before the cursor. This is useful for moving text around by deleting it with something like daw, jumping elsewhere, and doing p.

      And of course, the regex replacement with :s// is very useful if you have more than a few lines that need approximately the same change.

      • sem@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        1·
        7 hours ago

        This is all very advanced to me. I use Home and End to go forward and back in the line, but w and b sound good to m (just wish they made more intuitive sense), also p and P.

        I should print out a ref sheet.

        • [object Object]@lemmy.world
          1·
          6 hours ago

          Vim has a built-in tutorial on the motion commands and such. I don’t remember how it’s invoked, but probably something like :help tutorial. You’ll get an overview of the commands and see which ones might be useful to you right away. As I mentioned, I recommend getting the hang of them one or a few at a time, so they are incorporated in your toolbox.

          Speaking of help, it’s generally useful in Vim to use :help {something} when you want to recall how something works. It has consistent naming for the help pages for various functionality, e.g. :help :s shows the page about the :s command, and there are pages for every motion command, etc. — I don’t remember the prefixes as it’s been a while since I used Vim proper, but just :help should give you an index.

          Also, if you’re coding in Vim, there are ways to integrate documentation for your language, so that K would show help for the function or whatever under the cursor. Back in the day I’ve had PHP docs plugged into Vim, but it’s been a while, so idk how it’s done now. Iirc there are dumps of docs from the Dash app, which might be available as vimdocs.

    • Stitch0815@feddit.org
      5·
      1 day ago

      My most used commands are also just the classics

      cw - delete the next word amd enter insert mode

      dd - delete line

      gg - go to first line

      G - go to last line

      :s/searchphrase/replacephrase - search and replace

      And a couple of visual mode commands do cut and paste blocks or comment out blocks of code

  • juipeltje@lemmy.world
    1·
    22 hours ago

    So far it hasn’t really happened to me yet. I tried configuring neovim, but since i’m still a noob at programming, it felt like it didn’t make much sense to put so much effort into configuring an editor, however i did want something terminal based. So instead i use helix now. Already has the lsp stuff baked in, and my config is just a few lines of toml.

  • AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip
    10·
    2 days ago

    I may be crazy, but for regular text file, VIM is usually my go to. But, because of tag auto completion Bluefish has been my HMTL/CSS editor for a while. Most other things are in VIM. Bash? VIM. Python? VIM. C? Trash bin! Did not like the C class I took last quarter!

    Exception being things like .docx or .odt files that have no business being opened in VIM.

  • yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca
    7·
    1 day ago

    Emacs and (Neo)Vim are a bit too overwhelming for me. I’ve tried Neovim for a relatively long time, but I felt kind of overloaded with the vast amount of features and plugins it has. I’ve tried Emacs a bit, but its complexity always scared me (not to mention it uses its own version of Lisp, a language that is notorious for its ability of creating new language features on the fly, hence even more complexity). I’ve been using Helix, and I couldn’t be happier. I’ve realized that I don’t really care much about editor customization, and that what I was looking for was just a cool modal editor with some useful features (such as file picker, LSP, tree-sitter, multiple cursors, …). The keybinds are also easier to grasp, as fewer of them feel arbitrary compared to Vim. In Vim and Emacs, it feels like you can do everything, while in Helix, it feels more like you can do everything the developers think that might be useful for you. Who knows, maybe I’ll try again Emacs and (Neo)Vim again in the far future, but I don’t feel like it for now.

    • BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org
      5·
      1 day ago

      May I recommend Helix? It’s a modal editor like vim, but has a better out of the box experience, better discoverability for commands, and uses an easier to understand select->command syntax.

      • WhosMansIsThis@lemmy.world
        6·
        1 day ago

        Just started using helix a few months ago and I’m in love. The movement took a second to get used to but its super efficient once you get the hang of it. I highly recommend it, especially if you’re doing any kind of programming or sysadmin work and you hate gui ides.