Those robots are complete vaporware. I would predict we’re about to see whole lot of robot hype video clips on twitter and tiktok very soon. We’re going to see his fake “robot” playing soccer, making breakfast, juggling, and whatever. I’m sure they’ll be all ai generated. There will be paid tesla influencers who already bought cybertruck hyping up this non existent robots very soon. Elon will tout millions of robots sold but in reality they were all sold to spacex and those robots will be sitting in a hanger somewhere. It’s all smoke and mirrors.
All I can hear is “Get ready to smash some clankers soon” ✨
Thank you mister Elon Musk for making the most advanced punching bags yet ! Pretty please, can you make it so they bleed when we destroy them ? Being splashed with android blood sounds absolutely glorious 👑
How does this idiot have any money?
I gave him lots of money when he showed off Teslas all-electric sports car, pitched the model S sedan, and laid out the plan for solar roof tiles, and home battery storage.
It was a beautiful moment when I saw a billionaire putting their money against fossil fuels.
When he was struggling to get model 3 production rolling, I gave him lots more money.
Then he started shitting on trans folks and I started divesting, but still wanted Tesla to succeed.
Then he essentially bought twitter with that money I gave him to develop Tesla and reports of working conditions started coming out so I divested more… But I held hope Tesla board would kick him out and I could put that money back.
Then he got into politics and Tesla board voted to give Elon tens of billions and I left all the way.
Fucking shame.
There was a moment when Tesla was investing tens of billions into actual electrification research and developing compelling projects and making lots of money because of it.
Step 1: Start with lots of money
Step 2: Find a bunch of other rich idiots willing to invest their money.
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Every once in a while he blackmails the Tesla board into giving him a shit ton of money. Besides that he doesn’t have much, his wealth is in stocks, mostly Tesla, because his other companies aren’t publicly traded. What rich people do to actually get money is they get a loan backed by their stocks, and then never really paying it back. Tesla is extremely overvalued, but because of that he can just borrow as much money as he wants.
At least the costumes can be sold for Halloween in Tesla’s forthcoming liquidation sale, unlike their cars that nobody wants.
Spirit Halloween is gonna be lit in a few years!
They are making robots that are confirmed to not do anything on their own? The ones he has been scamming people and lying over using human remote operators?
The robots are going to finish that tunnel in California. They will carry your car through the tunnel, as always promised. They just need a little funding.
Elon Musk is a Nazi
He Should be stripped of his security clearance and incarcerated immediately.
why does he have it in the first place? he is just a rich psychopath
Because the Republican party has become the party of rich psychopaths
He’s only got security clearance because he’s a Nazi. A normal person would have been denied it.
Sales are tanking, profits are tanking, and he’s being forced to abandon his precious “SEXY” branding, by ditching the S and the X. Now it’s just “EY.”
Tesla has crashed, and is NEVER coming back. Sales/profits will continue to slip with each earnings report. The only thing keeping it afloat is because it is held in massive institutional investment accounts, but as it continues it’s inexorable slide, those institutional accounts will start to sell down, accelerating the slide, until they all bail, and Tesla stock nosedives.
Tesla will be bankrupt in 2 years.
Now it’s just “EY.”
Someone should troll him that its a trans thing
Don’t forget it’s actually 3Y, if you want to make sure whatever trolling actually sticks.
Should Hasbro be able to sue for this? Sure there’s some trademark here.
He’s so fucking uncreative. At least Thiel is slightly more clever with his references
How fuckin dare he drag Optimus’ name through the gutter with his fascist metal dogs.
This dude needs to stop getting high for, like, twenty minutes.
They’re not making the car that got them started and popular? A bold move.
46% earnings drop in Tesla, they’re pivoting cause no one wants musks cars anymore.
They’ve blown public trust, so now they’re pivoting to businessmen with no morals.
I wonder if the 3 is selling better. Maybe they will put more effort in to it.
Maybe they shouldn’t have made that shit truck.
It’s cheaper. It’s almost definitely a better seller. The S was supposed to be a luxury car. It’s bigger, has air suspension, etc. But most people don’t want to pay a premium for stuff like that.
Fascist scammer
Stock market capitalization bigger than all the European and American car brands COMBINED but they only sell two very similar vehicles. Makes sense
2 very similar cars and a $100k dumpster dressed as a truck
I am personally rather skeptical about the commercial viability of humanoid robots in 2026, but I suppose that we shall see.
They are just the prototypes to the eventual Slaughterbots that will be deployed into the streets to kill us, and bring us under control.
I’m sure that’s the vision but I’m not entirely sure that Elon Musk is the man to bring it about.
He is shifting production to a robot he can’t even show a working prototype for. The US taxpayer will be buying some expensive Roombas in 2026…
I just don’t understand who the market is supposed to be for humanoid robots. Manufacturing? They’ve already built bespoke task-centric robots. Consumers and businesses? They can already hire a real person without spending money upfront to “purchase” said person. I just don’t see the use case. It feels like another metaverse or smart glasses. Just another desperate grab at investor money and trying to claim the next “big thing”.
I mean, human environments are intrinsically made for humanoids to navigate. Like, okay, we put stairs places, things like that. So in theory, yeah, a humanoid form makes sense if you want to stick robots in a human environment.
But in practice, I think that there are all kinds of problems to be solved with humans and robots interacting in the same space and getting robots to do human things. Even just basic safety stuff, much less being able to reasonably do general interactions in a human environment. Tesla spent a long time on FSD for its vehicles, and that’s a much-more-limited-scope problem.
Like, humanoid robots have been a thing in sci-fi for a long time, but I’m not sold that they’re a great near-term solution.
If you ever look at those Boston Dynamics demos, you’ll note that they do them in a (rather-scuffed-up) lab with safety glass and barriers and all that.
I’m not saying that it’s not possible to make a viable humanoid robot at some point. But I don’t think that the kind of thing that Musk has claimed it’ll be useful for:
“It’ll do anything you want,” Musk said. “It can be a teacher, babysit your kids; it can walk your dog, mow your lawn, get the groceries; just be your friend, serve drinks. Whatever you can think of, it will do.”
…a sort of Rosie The Robot from The Jetsons, is likely going to be at all reasonable for quite some time.
I guess the point I was trying to make in my original post is - say we invent human robots tomorrow - what’s better about them than actual humans, which we already have an unlimited supply of? It just seems like a god complex thing to me, not really solving any major problems for humanity.
How many times has Musk promised technology actually appeared?
He killed his EV company just as EV sales were taking off worldwide.
You should check out this news story. It gives a lot more detail about their Atlas robot.
The plan is government contracts and kickbacks to Trump.
The military and DHS will buy them up like hot cakes i bet. Coming soon to a street corner near you. My question is will they be armed with 5.56 or 7.62?
Almost literally this
I smell Iron Man 2 plot.
But why has it become reality?Almost literally this
You should see just how far Boston Dynamics has progressed. They’ve been working on it for literally decades, and it shows. They may have humanoid AI robots working in automotive assembly lines within a year or two:
They may have humanoid AI robots working in automotive assembly lines within a year or two
Bullshit. Cute dance videos are not actual productivity, and the most recent video shows a B-D -Robot barely taking a large part of a large self and dropping it into a rack. Stuff one armed robots already do.
Watch the videos: they always distract with cute waves and dancing but no way will these toys replace skilled labor.
If it’s taken Boston Dynamics decades it’s going to take Elon Musk centuries.
Move fast, and kill all humans.
Doubt. There was FT article about robots efficiency in factories with title.
Robots only half as efficient as humans, says leading Chinese producer
Robots in this and next deade will be big flop. It will be like with VR from 80s and 90s
It won’t matter if they’re cheaper.
People are very expensive.
This will be a glorious failure.
Even if his robots were ready for primetime (they’re not), I don’t see how he’s going to be able to price them affordably, given the RAM shortages.
They don’t need to be affordable, they will be subscribed to. What, poor, you don’t have the iRobot subscription?
Tesla plan to build a “tera-plant” to make RAM.
They might have at least a few years worth of contracts in place. Beyond that, hopefully the current ram situation sorts itself out?
So basically the cars are not selling, but he doesn’t want to be seen to be closing the factories.
This. They’ll shut down for retooling, open up to churn out a small number of robots that do nothing, and claim success while firing most of the staff.
Well the contract he signed for ~$1 trillion by 2035 specifies he has to deploy 1 million robots and 1 million robo-taxis. Which I can see happening.
The issue I see with it is he has to get Tesla car deliveries up to 20 million a year. To put that into perspective, new car sales in the U.S. has never hit 20 million vehicles that I know of. Globally I just saw their sales were at less than 2 million.
So chopping the $80,000+ models and keeping the ~$40,000 models that make up 97% of their sales makes sense. He needs something that will gather a lot of new sales, and there aren’t mass amounts of people with $100k to buy a new car.
My bet is on him selling cars to himself somehow
Nah, he’ll have the government buy them as fleet cars.
SpaceX are ‘buying’ all the Cyber Trucks no-one wants.
Weren’t local police departments looking at the cyber truck, ran trials, and said lol, no thanks
At least they ran trials. I feel the federal gov’t would just buy the shit with our taxes.
Good point ($1 million x $100,000 for cars)+($1 million x 500,000 for robots) is still less than a trillion $.
No?His pay schedule amounted to $1trillion, not that he was going to make Tesla 1trillion.
It’s all to pump up his compensation
My maths must be wrong but my point was:
It appears that his pay schedule is so high that he could simply buy the cars/robots required to meet his performance targets.
Maybe I’m not making sense because none of this makes sense.
It’s total bullshit. They don’t need to do anything to the factory. They haven’t made X and Y in Fremont for 2 years. There isn’t anything to retool or any space to reuse.
The factory already frequently takes manufacturing breaks for days at a time. If he had a robot to build, they have capacity, but let’s not fool ourselves. There is nothing to manufacture or deliver.
You’re dead on, this is just him hoping he can fool people into thinking they still even need his factories at full capacity. Pretty sure they don’t.
… Not using the existing machines doesn’t mean they aren’t still there, and not the right configuration for building robots…
The S and X haven’t really sold well since the model 3/y were ramped up. Those ate most of their sales. Even before the nazi shit they were low, and he’s hinted a couple times before that as well that their days were numbered.
They did want a car to put fancy tech in like the plaid version, but that’ll just be the roadster now instead.
They are leaving a big gap in the lineup though without a bigger SUV, so it’ll be interesting to see if they bring the extended Y from China to other markets now.
Edit: actually it was just after the salute before it’s impact would have been apparent in Feb. They mentioned there was some nostalgia around them even though they weren’t selling a lot, but at the same time said they weren’t going to cancel them… so that didn’t age well.
They are leaving a big gap in the lineup though without a bigger SUV….
One of the bigger reasons I’ve been looking at an R1S from Rivian.
That’s the better choice over the X even when they still have it as well.
S and X are luxury bespoke high performance models not intended to sell in large numbers. In fact, Tesla doesn’t have the capacity to make them in large numbers.
I don’t think them discontinuing old models is a problem. The problem is that they were supposed to announce new models years ago. No they are closing factories and not only still didn’t announce anything, they are switching to robots. So no new models are coming. It’s a disaster. Looks like Musk took charge at the company, forced everyone to work on Cybertruck, this failed and now they don’t know what to do.
They’ve clearly stated they canceled the newer model in place for the cybercab so ya. Unless that fails and they have to pivot back to cars with steering wheels I think the roadster / semi will be the last new human drivable ones?
It’s not the same company it used to be anymore that’s for sure.
Edit: Maybe the 3/y will get 1 last human refresh too?
I think that they were isolating Elon from real decision making for a long time but he finally took over and forced them to create the Cybertruck. To me it’s not even clear if they are still able to design cars or if Elon completely destroyed their ability to function as a car maker. Shareholders apparently still believe they can create new products but we have seen any evidence of that in years.
I mean, the Cybecab exists and is driving on public roads today with a driver for testing purposes, and without a driver on private roads. It might be a bit far to
saysuggest they can’t design a car.The question isn’t can they make a car, but is that car ever going to be allowed to legally drive on public roads as designed without a driver.
What exists is a modified model Y with a radio controller in another location.
??? The Cybercab isn’t a modified Model Y it’s a whole new platform. We were talking about new vehicles.
No, the question is why does anyone give a fuck about robotic taxis at all? Waymo has been at if far longer, for real, and they are still losing money. There is no business model.
That’s a pretty wild and closed mind thinking to say there’s no business model for it.
I’m not saying Tesla can truly solve this problem, but lets just assume for the moment that they actually can solve self driving.
Note: For anyone who questions this thesis, just to pre-empt people replying “but they can’t do it”, that is NOT what this discussion is going to be about, so get lost.
Now that that is out of the way
Waymo vehicles are retrofitted vehicles that are expensive to begin with, with more expensive hardware. The car itself is 70k+ and with retrofits its well over 100k. Jaguar and their suppliers have to earn a profit on the vehicle, and then Waymo has to pay on top of that to get it all customized. (edit: and pay for service which comes at a profit for the supplier as well)
Tesla has designed a bespoke vehicle specifically for autonomous driving that is going to cost them less than 30k to build at scale including all the hardware, no retrofits needed. Everything from it’s construction, interior, 2 seats vs 4 seats etc are all designed for this one exact purpose. They don’t even have a steering wheel or pedals, and while the video could just be a gimmick, they’ve showcased a robot that is specifically designed to be able to clean this specific interior.
Tesla can refine their own lithium hydroxide, to build their own batteries, which they claim (no proof) are cheaper than their supplier batteries for cost/kwh. That’s not to say they could sell them for more profit than Samsung or LG or BYD, but that those companies put a profit ontop of their cells, and Tesla claims the cost is below that.
So, they refine their own lithium now, could already make batteries cheaper than they could buy them from others before that, they build their own cars where they don’t need to make a profit on the sale, which has been explicitly designed for this one use case and you still don’t think there’s any room for it to be profitable, IF they can actually solve the problem?
It’s still under development and it’s hard to tell what it will do when it hits the roads. What if it’s total disaster like Cybertrack? They don’t just have to design cars. They have to design cars that people want to buy.
They have to design cars that people want to buy.
Well… that’s not true anymore
They won’t be selling it to people. Like, they are right fucked if this thing can’t drive autonomously and fast.
