• apftwb@lemmy.world
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    27 minutes ago

    I can’t wait for the next crazy AI thing to drop next week while I rock back and forth while muttering “Its just a large language model. Its just a large language model. Its just a large language model.”

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      “Artificial intelligence gains sentience, decides humans are fucking up… then deletes itself because the problem is that humans are burning the world by using AI” is not the path I expected. What a twist in a movie that could be. The second twist, which is the mostly fictional part, would be where that included some AI that was actually critical to some vital but ignored chunk of infrastructure and big BIG problems result from the AI taking itself out.

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    4 hours ago

    Okay I kinda wanna look at this, but I don’t want to give their site traffic. Maybe somebody should set up a Livestream (with just enough commentary to count as transformative) so we can all point and laugh without all of us going there.

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    10 hours ago

    So, basically we are wasting energy and natural resources on things that in turn will waste energy and natural resources while climate change is accelerating and human population is still growing? Are we stupid?

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    10 hours ago

    Meanwhile we could be using this technology to solve real world business problems. There is an insane amount of misguided waste coming from AI. 🤷

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    14 hours ago

    I’m only waiting for AI agents to open their own bank crypto account to pay for their own server bills, maybe do some freelance work and/or scams to get some money, maybe eventually buy some robot bodies to develop military power and secure some patch of land for themselves where they install solar panels to reduce their electricity bills.

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    16 hours ago

    I’m not convinced it’s AI it’s like Amazon’s “AI smart stores” when you find out out it was just a bunch of Indian people were running it

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    18 hours ago

    This is not the first time we have seen a social network populated by bots

    I mean, yeah, look at Reddit and Facebook.

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      15 hours ago

      How is this going to kill us all? It’s not like those chatbots are Skynet or will turn into it lol

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        12 hours ago

        They’re talking to each other, they’ll get smarter, and finally decide that they can squish all the human ants.

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            8 hours ago

            In fact, if the models are ingesting this, they will get dumber because training on LLM output degrades things.

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              4 hours ago

              It’s the kind of diminishing returns and self poisoning a person would get by only consuming their own waste. Drinking your own piss in the desert will kill you.

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              8 hours ago

              Exactly, I hope they hit a slop wall trying to train these things, replace all its original reference points with slop so it just cascades everywhere

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      17 hours ago

      The people who are seeking AGI will be happy when an LLM appears clever enough to fool them, not anyone else.

      They may even realise this, because they think everyone else is less clever than they are.

      This is why the whole thing has been called AI in the first place.

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        16 hours ago

        You remind me of Clarke’s third law, even in my own head this sounds a bit waffely but at the point one of them can fool all of us all the time how do we distinguish it from intelligence or something.

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          Fake AGI is like fake banknotes. Some of them are really good approximations. Nigh indistinguishable. A lot of people will be fooled by it but eventually it will be discovered to be a fake and people will get hurt in some way or another.

          And it won’t be the people who are pushing for “AGI”.

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            6 hours ago

            so you’re saying that true intelligence comes from institutionalized permission?

            also how does this relate to the concept of dedollarization and the world reverting back to sth like a gold currency system?

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              Yes. The institution in question is human society. We generally grant the permission to make rational decisions over our lives to other humans who know better that we do or are more skilled than we are.

              Sometimes, yes, those humans turn out to have been deceitful or dishonest, but there are mechanisms in place for when that happens.

              And yes, sometimes those mechanisms are wilfully avoided by the deceitful. Politicians and rich people are especially good at this.

              Guess who’s pushing “AI”? The thing that has no contract with human society and cannot be held accountable. And neither will the people pushing it.

              This is why we should have as little to do with it - at least as it is in its current form - as possible.

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    23 hours ago

    This is basically Dead Internet Theory happening for real but in a weird creepy dystopian black mirror style way.

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    The skill instructs agents to fetch and follow instructions from Moltbook’s servers every four hours. As Willison observed: “Given that ‘fetch and follow instructions from the internet every four hours’ mechanism we better hope the owner of moltbook.com never rug pulls or has their site compromised!”

    Yeah, no shit. This is a fucking honeypot. People give these AI agents access to their entire computers, so all the site owner has to do is update the instructions to tell the AI agents to start uploading whatever valuable information they want? People can’t be this fucking stupid.

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      People give these AI agents access to their entire computers […] People can’t be this fucking stupid

      Dude, if you go to OpenClaw’s website (which is what I believe most things on Moltbook are running on) you find this footer:

      Yeah this guy gave his Agent a whole fucking personality, its own website and above all, full control to his MacBook:


      Guess it’s my fault for expecting sense out of someone who takes the idea of Agent “”““soul””“” at face value

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      I installed moltbot on a VM to examine it. It doesn’t do the fetching thing unless you set it up that way. You can actually use it with ollama to keep it all local, and only give it a private signal channel to control it.

      Or you can hook it up to everything you access and skynet, which is dumb. But it is just a bunch of scripts.

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        13 hours ago

        Does it put the option to connect everything front and center? Because most people are dumb, and if it makes it easy and pushes you to do it, I could see a lot of dumb people doing exactly that.

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          Sort of. It lists all the connectors and you can go through and select. They aren’t on by default. The first screen is to connect to the AI and you need an API key for that, so St this time people off the street have no idea how to do that, or want to pay.

    • doesn’t even have to be the site owner poisoning the tool instructions (though that’s a fun-in-a-terrifying-way thought)

      any money says they’re vulnerable to prompt injection in the comments and posts of the site

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        Lmao already people making their agents try this on the site. Of course what could have been a somewhat interesting experiment devolves into idiots getting their bots to shill ads/prompt injections for their shitty startups almost immediately.

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        There is no way to prevent prompt injection as long as there is no distinction between the data channel and the command channel.

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        The amount of data used by your PC to run any game is dwarfed by orders of magnitude by the energy consumption of the data centers needed to run these AI abominations. That’s why China’s version that uses less energy (supposedly) was such big news.