In Sweden that is the case. We have something called “allemansrätten” directly translated to all-mans-right, or, the freedom to roam. So, as long as there are no fences, you can walk around wherever you like. You are even allowed to pass through big animal enclosures as long as you don’t disturb the animals or so.
Now that makes tons sense to me! Why would some put up a sign saying No Trespassing, without a fence to instantly communicate property boundaries? It should never be enforceable without fencing. Yet, again, a Scandinavian country has it right over The USA.
Haha yep.
I think in some states in USA you are not allowed to shoot the tresspasser unless you have asuch sign? So it fills a purpous there too, just a much darker one
Hey you’re right, in the same vein it could be argued it implies they’re cool with everything else not explicitly mentioned. “NO TRESPASSING (murder’s ok)”
They’re more a declaration of intent than anything else, also it makes it more obvious you’re trespassing if someone, say, borders a forest, and their property has trees on it. It makes it really hard to tell where it’s okay to walk, since the line is invisible, so someone saying “I was walking in this public forest, and there’s no obvious marking here” is a viable defence in court.
But if there’s a fence, which is where I usually see these signs, they’re pointless at best, or a threat of violence at worst.
They’re more a declaration of intent than anything else
How so? Besides the signs saying, Trespassers will be shot or the dog can make to the in fence in 3-secs., how fast can you?, I do understand what you mean.
It varies by jurisdiction, but in many places trespass isn’t actionable if it was accidental or if the person was deceived into trespassing by a third party. Posted signs could prevent those cases.
This has always been my understanding of the purpose behind the signs. It removes or at least makes it harder to use the defense that you didn’t know you were trespassing.
BINGO!
In The USA? I really surprised if that was the case, but I am no expert.
Of course here in Southeastern USA & Fl. the real enforcement has the threat of being shot. No joke, the only time I was threatened was one-time (only once because I take the threat very serious, because I live innRural, unincorporated & Ag. area) I had to walk in a neighbor’s property (he never install a intercom. system), because my dogs ran into his property (he never stalled a workable gate), & knock many times on his door. He never came to the door or gave any response to my additional yells, with the dogs getting closer to his property’s edge (old weak fencing). I decided I could wait any longer & went into his backyard tracking down the dogs I care for. Suddenly he came out of no where, far behind me, waving a gun, when I was am round up the dogs & came closer to him I see it a air gun.
I’ve always wondered about that too…. It certainly makes it seem that if there isn’t a posted sign specifically denying an action you’re OK to do it.
I’ve never thought about that. It’s telling you specifically not to commit a crime that was already illegal anyway
Only break one law at once. If you’re doing illegal shit in or with your vehicle, don’t get pulled over for running red lights or having a broken taillight. Crime 101.
A longer more accurate sign would read:
“Do not enter. Violators will be charged with Trespassing.”
But that’s a lot more words than just saying “No Trespassing”, and its less likely to be overlooked.
