Not all statements by the pope are regarded as infallible by Catholics. In fact, invoking infallibility is very rare. However Leo’s statements on the Iran War are very clearly in line with Catholic doctrine.

A key distinction between terms here is that while Catholics are probably the largest single Christian group in the US, a larger Christian percentage belongs to various Protestant groups. They already don’t care about the pope and think Catholics are wrong

Doesn’t matter. Magats hear, believe and obey.

This is pretext for their base, to justify the Pope’s upcoming assassination by the US government.

I mean, this is pretty much a protestant viewpoint so… who cares?

They only hear the sound of cash flowing in their pockets

Yes they don’t care

Religion is a cloak they wear, they don’t really believe it

I mean MAGA is mostly made up of Protestants/Evangelicals. There was kinda a whole thing about thinking the pope was wrong

It’s quite interesting how close hannity is to trump, he has seen having golf meetings with him

Ex-cultist here. Specifically, fundamentalist Christian in the US.

So what we’re seeing here is a division between in-groups and out-groups, and drawing that circle closer as a means of guarding against valid criticism. Consider; the standard response of most cults when they are under attack is to double down on its assertions that it is telling the truth. Most cults are built with a persecution complex as key part of exploiting their believers.

This tactic triggers their emotional response to rally to the defense of their cause, because “We’re under attack! We’re being hunted! The Worst Thing Possible is going to happen, and it is THIS PERSECUTOR’S fault!” This also forces a false choice in members who are doubting the leadership, forcing them to either cut all social ties and side with the enemy (they are trained to see this as a fate worse than death) or rehearse their dogma and rally without question.

^My basic understanding of whats going on.

Be kind to others -Bible

It also says “kill others”, you should read it. LOTS of instructions on killing

There are many reasons not to be murderous, the Bible isn’t one of them. Does it say “do not murder?” YES. Does it also say “murder”. YES. Many times. Throughout.

Catholics are not real “Christians”. So they dont believe in the Pope’s position or respect the Pope.

I cannot fathom telling a guy who has dedicated his life to the church though that he doesn’t understand the bible. Then again that is the republican MO, if you think you know better than an expert clearly you do.

Thing is, they claim that they care about religion. Not sure how many deadly sins they are gobbling up with all of that because something doesn’t add up.

A friend of mine studied theology and said (when I remarked something similar) that that’s a very Protestant perspective.

Catholicism has had a long history of people disagreeing with the pope. There have been antipopes, wars between Catholics and the Papal State, theological factions where the Pope is just one participant, etc. . Papal infallibility is a very recent doctrine, and it only applies when he is speaking ex cathedra, which is rarely. Many Catholics don’t adhere to it, and many only consider it a matter of worldly convenience against schisms.

That said, there are no AI generated images of Trump wearing Papal vestments or overseeing the holy mass. Trump is not presented as an anti-Pope, but as an anti-Christ.

Well, technically the Pope is only infallible with respect to cathedral matters:

The definition of the doctrine of papal infallibility was promulgated on July 18, 1870, in the dogmatic constitution Pastor aeternus (Latin: “Eternal Shepherd”) of the First Vatican Council. This document states the conditions under which a pope may be said to have spoken infallibly, or ex cathedra (“from his chair” as supreme teacher). It is a prerequisite that the pope intend to demand irrevocable assent from the entire church in some aspect of faith or morals.

That’s not really true at all though. The pope isn’t always right, without exception. He’s only infallible on matters of faith or morals, and on doctrine which is stated as being the view of the church and which invokes his supreme authority. Popes are capable of being wrong, making mistakes, or sinning.

It is a lot more nuanced then that, but for many catholics that is how it is.

I’m sorry, but this is BS.

The Church is run by people and people are fallible.

Bishops sign their names with an upside down cross to remind themselves that they are sinners who make mistakes.

A shocking number of saints are people martyred for standing up to the Church when it had become corrupt.

It’s a Catholic’s duty to stand for what is right.

Hannity doesn’t call himself Catholic, and that’s also not exactly true.

As an ex-Catholic: Catholics only have to accept things that the Pope says ex cathedra, which means he has to make a formal, official statement speaking for the Church, not just expressing his personal views. You can also criticize the Pope’s behavior, the Pope is still a sinner like everyone else, only Jesus is without sin. That’s how Catholics deal with all those mideval popes having gay harems and stuff, and it’s also how they deal with all the times the Church was wrong, like claiming that the sun revolved around the earth.

Infallibility has to be limited in scope or it wouldn’t be possible to weasel out of things.

Where I’m at the Christians have mostly completely lost the plot. There’s this complete perversion of the faith called Prosperity Gospel that basically believes money is proof of divine blessing. So being rich is proof you’re in Gods favor.

Also where I am there’s is non-0 number of Christians who legitimately believe we/someone needs to rebuild ancient buildings in the middle east so Jesus can return.

It’s a death cult that believes money is proof that God approves of you. While simultaneously believing unending war/genocide in the middle east is a necessary evil. So they can just shrug their shoulders while people are slaughtered and say “God works in mysterious ways!”

Send help.

Actually, for a fascist it’s very easy. When words dont really mean anything and your ideology demands no consistency you can say what you want and defend the indefensible. If you think that rational people would see through all that you’re right, but their followers arent. They’ve been trained for over forty years to be led by the nose by their media peer group. Be it conservative news or Facebook posts or green text or their local evangelical demigogue, whatever it is they will be told what they want to hear. Trump is right, and by extention they are right too. And to question it is to put at risk all the relationships they’ve built up over their lifetime. To be wrong is too risky, so they simply arent. And people like Sean Hannity can say whatever they want without question.

So this is how they justify pedophiles

And the part of the Bible he was talking about isn’t even in the Bible. It says David had concubines, but it doesn’t say how many.

It does tell us that Solomon had 300 concubines (in addition to 700 wives). Solomon expanded on his father’s excesses, so David probably had a more modest number of women in his household.

I’m sure Fox personalities wouldn’t really care that atheists know more about the Bible than they do. My money is on most of them not actually believing anything they say on TV. (Remember those text messages about Trump?)

Kinda like chimps, they’re funny at the zoo, but give them machine guns

You wanna hear something that’ll absolutely destroy whatever little faith in humanity you may have left?

I once knew a guy who knew for a fact that Southern Baptist was the only true Christian religion. His reasoning? And he was absolutely dead serious when he said this and for him is was 100% a mic drop moment:

“Because his name was John the Baptist, not John the Catholic!”

This was something his aunt had said to him years ago, which I guess underscored its infallibility. He was by far the dumbest person I had ever met, and I’ve met a lot of dumb people.

When I was a teenager in the '90s, my mom’s church did a six-week series of lessons on Wednesday nights about how the Catholic church only pretends to be Christian, followed by another series of lessons about how the Pope meets all of the criteria to be the Antichrist.

As Jesus said, “Love your neighbor, but only if he believes in me in exactly the same way you do.”

Wait, there was a secret John Paul the 3rd??? No wonder they thought he was evil!!!

Just a distraction

What gets me is that the Pope is just saying pretty basic Christian teachings. Simply the kinds of stuff Jesus says in the Sermon on the Mount. And the media is like “LOOK HE’S ATTACKING TRUMP!” The fact that he doesn’t really specify the USA or anything says a lot about the state of things, where the basic Gospel of Jesus Christ is seen as inherently confrontational to the MAGA agenda.

Putin?

Why does this matter? - because it shows that Hannity doesn’t matter

While I understand what you’re saying, Hannity absolutely matters because millions of people listen to his bullshit. His past doesn’t matter as he is a powerful propagandist now.